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> But please feel free to let customers browse TikTok with their headphones on. If my experience with trains is anything to go by then I can guarantee you that

> But please feel free to let customers browse TikTok with their headphones on. If my experience with trains is anything to go by then I can guarantee you that there will be at least one person doing it without the headphones and volume set to 100%.

HWR_14 4y ago
That's a problem with saved content as well. I have yet to notice that problem on planes like it is on trains. Although this might be because the people who plan ahead to download content are more likely to remember headphones.
- Mattasher 4y ago
  I suspect it's more a function of cost and class. The people who pay $500 to fly aren't the same as the people who pay $2.50 to be on the subway, or jump the turnstile altogether.
  - end_of_line 4y ago
    500$ is a quite average price for the country I live in. Of course I don't mean cheap airlines, only the national ones.
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > it's more a function of cost and class A notable difference between economy and front cabin is the passengers. Mostly good: pets and kids are uncannily well behaved. Sometimes bad, e.g. more arguing.
  - KptMarchewa 4y ago
    I still can find 10$ Ryanair tickets...
    - vinay427 4y ago
      The average passenger likely paid far more than $10, so I think their point stands, sort of. I would add that trains for longer than a few hours in many western countries often cost more than the typical price of a Ryanair ticket, so I’m not sure the class difference is very large in some countries.
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  Seems to me that anyone under age 25-ish has headphones permanently grafted to their ears. I exaggerate a bit but like young people rarely forget their phones because they notice within a few minutes that they don't have it, people are increasingly using headphones so much that they will not need to remember them. My kids were constantly losing wallets, money, credit cards, keys, drivers licenses, etc. but none of them ever lost a phone. I expect headphones will go the same way soon. For older folks, yeah. I often leave the house without my phone, because I go for hours at a time not using it.
- friendlyHornet 4y ago
  I also suspect that the flight crew more actively enforcing rules than on a bus/train helps a lot.
kmlx 4y ago
we need to adopt more of the politeness of the japanese in this regard.
DocTomoe 4y ago
I travel some 600 km one-way to the HQ per train every month. The correct answer is to not book second class tickets, ever, always book "first class quiet zone", and inform offending co-travellers about societally unacceptable behaviour, friendly at first, then increasingly passive-aggressive. There are always some people who are incorrigible ... but Bose N700 noise cancelling headphones also help.
- HWR_14 4y ago
  I assumed the poster was talking about metro-area trains. I've never had an issue on inter-city trains.
  - Beltalowda 4y ago
    No, I was talking about inter-city trains. We don't even have metro trains.
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  We actually have "quiet zones" in second class here (Netherlands), but it's a bit of a hit-and-miss type of thing. Usually when I've (politely) asked people to stfu I've gotten a reasonable reply ("oh, sorry, didn't realize"), but sometimes not so much, or just say "okay" and continue. Sometimes I don't bother because I'm not in the mood, or the people seem unlikely to be receptive. 1st class tends to be rather expensive. Depending on where you live, even 2nd class can be quite expensive.
thejammahimself 4y ago
I always wonder how these people don't feel embarrassed when their phone starts blasting out sound on a relatively quiet bus/train. I know some people would immediately mute their phone if they accidentally did that, but I suppose these people don't care.

HWR_14 4y ago

That's a problem with saved content as well. I have yet to notice that problem on planes like it is on trains. Although this might be because the people who plan ahead to download content are more likely to remember headphones.

Mattasher 4y ago
I suspect it's more a function of cost and class. The people who pay $500 to fly aren't the same as the people who pay $2.50 to be on the subway, or jump the turnstile altogether.
- end_of_line 4y ago
  500$ is a quite average price for the country I live in. Of course I don't mean cheap airlines, only the national ones.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > it's more a function of cost and class A notable difference between economy and front cabin is the passengers. Mostly good: pets and kids are uncannily well behaved. Sometimes bad, e.g. more arguing.
- KptMarchewa 4y ago
  I still can find 10$ Ryanair tickets...
  - vinay427 4y ago
    The average passenger likely paid far more than $10, so I think their point stands, sort of. I would add that trains for longer than a few hours in many western countries often cost more than the typical price of a Ryanair ticket, so I’m not sure the class difference is very large in some countries.
SoftTalker 4y ago
Seems to me that anyone under age 25-ish has headphones permanently grafted to their ears. I exaggerate a bit but like young people rarely forget their phones because they notice within a few minutes that they don't have it, people are increasingly using headphones so much that they will not need to remember them. My kids were constantly losing wallets, money, credit cards, keys, drivers licenses, etc. but none of them ever lost a phone. I expect headphones will go the same way soon. For older folks, yeah. I often leave the house without my phone, because I go for hours at a time not using it.
friendlyHornet 4y ago
I also suspect that the flight crew more actively enforcing rules than on a bus/train helps a lot.

kmlx 4y ago

we need to adopt more of the politeness of the japanese in this regard.

DocTomoe 4y ago

I travel some 600 km one-way to the HQ per train every month. The correct answer is to not book second class tickets, ever, always book "first class quiet zone", and inform offending co-travellers about societally unacceptable behaviour, friendly at first, then increasingly passive-aggressive. There are always some people who are incorrigible ... but Bose N700 noise cancelling headphones also help.

HWR_14 4y ago
I assumed the poster was talking about metro-area trains. I've never had an issue on inter-city trains.
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  No, I was talking about inter-city trains. We don't even have metro trains.
Beltalowda 4y ago
We actually have "quiet zones" in second class here (Netherlands), but it's a bit of a hit-and-miss type of thing. Usually when I've (politely) asked people to stfu I've gotten a reasonable reply ("oh, sorry, didn't realize"), but sometimes not so much, or just say "okay" and continue. Sometimes I don't bother because I'm not in the mood, or the people seem unlikely to be receptive. 1st class tends to be rather expensive. Depending on where you live, even 2nd class can be quite expensive.

thejammahimself 4y ago

I always wonder how these people don't feel embarrassed when their phone starts blasting out sound on a relatively quiet bus/train. I know some people would immediately mute their phone if they accidentally did that, but I suppose these people don't care.