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Why would autopilot, the normal driver assist all of the cars have, would respond to police? No where is that advertised as a standard feature. Now, the car sho

Why would autopilot, the normal driver assist all of the cars have, would respond to police? No where is that advertised as a standard feature. Now, the car should have eventually stopped after multiple failed driver inputs. But the part about ignoring police is a bit silly to hit on. Edit: Newer software versions do detect wheel weights as quite a few people have reported on the various Tesla forums. Edit 2: They didn't crash. That's the real story here.

anigbrowl 4y ago
In most jurisdictions, you have a legal obligation to pull over when emergency vehicles are operating their sirens. Perhaps they need to pull you over, or perhaps perhaps they just need you out of the way so they can get to some other emergency. If you are selling a vehicle with autopilot/self-driving, then it needs to respond to common driving situations like emergency vehicles. I am well aware the driver was on drugs and deliberately defeated the safety mechanism. That is not relevant. If s/he had a heart attack or stroke and was slumped over the wheel, the vehicle should still be able to stop in response to emergency vehicles. Sirens and emergency lights are easy to detect, by design.
- ajross 4y ago
  > If s/he had a heart attack or stroke and was slumped over the wheel, the vehicle should still be able to stop in response to emergency vehicles It should? Does your car do this? Do any cars do this? Cars don't do this. Traditionally, cars with passed-out drivers crash and kill people. Teslas don't. Are you saying you'd prefer they crash and kill people if they can't detect emergency commands from other vehicles?
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    I think you understand full well that this was offered in the context of self-driving cars, and that you did not in fact need it spelled out for you again.
    - cypress66 4y ago
      How is it in the context of self driving, if autopilot is not self driving?
      - anigbrowl 4y ago
        It is. Etymologically, they are synonymous. Differentiating them is just BS.
        ajross 4y ago
        You're demanding a safety feature because of linguistics?
        anigbrowl 4y ago
        Should I not pay attention to the meaning of words?
        ajross 4y ago
        I think the decision as to which safety features get implemented for an automobile should be independent of the designer's choice of language, yes.
Rebelgecko 4y ago
Shouldn't FSD understand how to drive properly when emergency vehicles are approaching from behind? Otherwise an ambulance could get stuck behind a Tesla blocking the road. Or was this just adaptive cruise control?
- dawnerd 4y ago
  FSD isn't Autopilot. Autopilot does detect emergency lights (in the US at least) but it only slows down. I've wondered why the car doesn't have detection for approaching cars behind to get out of the way but people say the rear camera angles are not good enough - I think that's a terrible excuse.
- simondotau 4y ago
  They said it was Autopilot, not FSD. So yes, this was just adaptive cruise control.
- Raidion 4y ago
  This doesn't say what mode the driver was using, FSD could arguably want to understand this, but if he was just using "Autopilot" (aka keeps your lane + adaptive cruise control) with a steering wheel weight to disable the "are you there?" checks, I wouldn't expect that to need or understand anything about emergency vehicles.

anigbrowl 4y ago

In most jurisdictions, you have a legal obligation to pull over when emergency vehicles are operating their sirens. Perhaps they need to pull you over, or perhaps perhaps they just need you out of the way so they can get to some other emergency. If you are selling a vehicle with autopilot/self-driving, then it needs to respond to common driving situations like emergency vehicles. I am well aware the driver was on drugs and deliberately defeated the safety mechanism. That is not relevant. If s/he had a heart attack or stroke and was slumped over the wheel, the vehicle should still be able to stop in response to emergency vehicles. Sirens and emergency lights are easy to detect, by design.

ajross 4y ago
> If s/he had a heart attack or stroke and was slumped over the wheel, the vehicle should still be able to stop in response to emergency vehicles It should? Does your car do this? Do any cars do this? Cars don't do this. Traditionally, cars with passed-out drivers crash and kill people. Teslas don't. Are you saying you'd prefer they crash and kill people if they can't detect emergency commands from other vehicles?
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  I think you understand full well that this was offered in the context of self-driving cars, and that you did not in fact need it spelled out for you again.
  - cypress66 4y ago
    How is it in the context of self driving, if autopilot is not self driving?
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      It is. Etymologically, they are synonymous. Differentiating them is just BS.
      - ajross 4y ago
        You're demanding a safety feature because of linguistics?
        anigbrowl 4y ago
        Should I not pay attention to the meaning of words?
        ajross 4y ago
        I think the decision as to which safety features get implemented for an automobile should be independent of the designer's choice of language, yes.

Rebelgecko 4y ago

Shouldn't FSD understand how to drive properly when emergency vehicles are approaching from behind? Otherwise an ambulance could get stuck behind a Tesla blocking the road. Or was this just adaptive cruise control?

dawnerd 4y ago
FSD isn't Autopilot. Autopilot does detect emergency lights (in the US at least) but it only slows down. I've wondered why the car doesn't have detection for approaching cars behind to get out of the way but people say the rear camera angles are not good enough - I think that's a terrible excuse.
simondotau 4y ago
They said it was Autopilot, not FSD. So yes, this was just adaptive cruise control.
Raidion 4y ago
This doesn't say what mode the driver was using, FSD could arguably want to understand this, but if he was just using "Autopilot" (aka keeps your lane + adaptive cruise control) with a steering wheel weight to disable the "are you there?" checks, I wouldn't expect that to need or understand anything about emergency vehicles.