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> but that cache is not diligently kept up to date Is the ability to take a payment the only thing LastPass got right?

Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago
No, not true. I'm using 1Password and while I like it, there are a few things LastPass got right where it even beats 1Password. The one on top of my mind is that you can unlock LastPass with a PIN. My wife has a phone with a glass cover (to protect it from the children), which "broke" fingerprint unlock. She's required to type the full password every time to unlock it, which is particularly hard on phone (long password). On top of that, lastpass app (phone) had the option to "force" autofill from a notification. For some apps where the popup never really shows up with 1Password, I was able to force it using LastPass and then fill. With 1Password the only option is to go to the app and copy-paste. Those are not game-breaking though, given the many, many bugs that LastPass (app on phone) had, the most annoying was: open the autofill and when searching, just no result shows up. This made the autofill useless a good chunk of the time. On top of that, LastPass EXTENSION (chrome) has the option of choosing between sharing states between browser profiles or not sharing states between browser profiles. This is very useful in my case, because my wife has a chrome profile under my OS user, but we can still have 2 different lastpass "logins". From this perspective, 1Password is actually entirely broken: if you login into the native application (which is basically required for decent functionality), you are not allowed to login into 2 different 1password profiles through the chrome extension unless they are on different URLs (e.g. mycompany.1password.com vs 1password.ca). Finally, LastPass was consistent: web, extension and app had the same capabilities. 1Password is highly inconsistent, where the native app has more capabilities than all of them, the extension has no edit capabilities but has better read capabilities than the web version and the web version has a mix of edit and read capabilities. For example, the native app can "batch add tag", but the web cannot do that.
- kcartlidge 4y ago
  Fair enough. And I used it myself for many years. TBH it was more of a throw-away sarcastic outburst, an exclamation, an out-breath, than a genuine question. And also based mainly on the security side of things. I didn't make that clear, however, so I apologise for leading you into expending so much effort on your excellent reply.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago
    All good, appreciate the apology, I'm bad at reading sarcasm, sorry! And I'm very angry at LastPass too. To be fair, the thing I'm the most angry about at LastPass is how the product felt completely stale. I remember signing up 6 years ago and there has been no change at all across the board. Bugs, issues, improvements, NOTHING. They could have avoided all this, they just didn't.

No, not true. I'm using 1Password and while I like it, there are a few things LastPass got right where it even beats 1Password. The one on top of my mind is that you can unlock LastPass with a PIN. My wife has a phone with a glass cover (to protect it from the children), which "broke" fingerprint unlock. She's required to type the full password every time to unlock it, which is particularly hard on phone (long password). On top of that, lastpass app (phone) had the option to "force" autofill from a notification. For some apps where the popup never really shows up with 1Password, I was able to force it using LastPass and then fill. With 1Password the only option is to go to the app and copy-paste. Those are not game-breaking though, given the many, many bugs that LastPass (app on phone) had, the most annoying was: open the autofill and when searching, just no result shows up. This made the autofill useless a good chunk of the time. On top of that, LastPass EXTENSION (chrome) has the option of choosing between sharing states between browser profiles or not sharing states between browser profiles. This is very useful in my case, because my wife has a chrome profile under my OS user, but we can still have 2 different lastpass "logins". From this perspective, 1Password is actually entirely broken: if you login into the native application (which is basically required for decent functionality), you are not allowed to login into 2 different 1password profiles through the chrome extension unless they are on different URLs (e.g. mycompany.1password.com vs 1password.ca). Finally, LastPass was consistent: web, extension and app had the same capabilities. 1Password is highly inconsistent, where the native app has more capabilities than all of them, the extension has no edit capabilities but has better read capabilities than the web version and the web version has a mix of edit and read capabilities. For example, the native app can "batch add tag", but the web cannot do that.

kcartlidge 4y ago
Fair enough. And I used it myself for many years. TBH it was more of a throw-away sarcastic outburst, an exclamation, an out-breath, than a genuine question. And also based mainly on the security side of things. I didn't make that clear, however, so I apologise for leading you into expending so much effort on your excellent reply.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago
  All good, appreciate the apology, I'm bad at reading sarcasm, sorry! And I'm very angry at LastPass too. To be fair, the thing I'm the most angry about at LastPass is how the product felt completely stale. I remember signing up 6 years ago and there has been no change at all across the board. Bugs, issues, improvements, NOTHING. They could have avoided all this, they just didn't.