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> Yes, and hamburgers have nothing to do with ham, they're named after the city of Hamburg. Frankfurters also not made of Franks. And your point is? > OTOH, w
by dmitriid 4y ago
> Yes, and hamburgers have nothing to do with ham, they're named after the city of Hamburg. Frankfurters also not made of Franks.
And your point is?
> OTOH, what exactly do people think they're eating when they have wieners?
That they eat a sausage made of meat that is named "weiner".
- ben_w 4y ago> And your point is? That "meaty" names are just as much nonsense regardless of whether or not meat is still involved. Just remembered an even more extreme example, albeit one that may only exist in the UK: christmas sweet pastry called "mince pie" filled with "mincemeat" which is often entirely vegetarian because it's an extremely archaic use of "meat" in the sense of "food". > That they eat a sausage made of meat that is named "weiner". QED: the name and shape (in this case, both being penile) are not really that connected to the mental model the consumer has of what they're consuming.
- dmitriid 4y agoTo quote myself: "Because it turns out people crave meat, and the market is happy to disguise vegeterian/vegan food as meat. Including trying to replicate both taste and texture. Funnily, meat is never (or very very very rarely) disguised as vegetables."
- ben_w 4y agoI know you said that. I'm saying you're wrong, because it's vegetables being "disguised" as generic shapes that don't look anything like natural meat. The historical association you have between shape and substance is as irrelevant as the connection between hamburgers-the-food and the city named after the castle belonging to Hamma.