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God damnit, but what doesn't. I am sure BitWarden has its own problems and it (seems?) not 100% FOSS but its core is. LP extension and web vault ARE pure garba

God damnit, but what doesn't. I am sure BitWarden has its own problems and it (seems?) not 100% FOSS but its core is. LP extension and web vault ARE pure garbage: 1. It can't even recognize sites correctly ?! WTF really. I usually get 10 or so (looks like random) hits for any site but not the one that I should. 2. It offers me to extend pro support 5 years after I stopped paying for it. What I need to do for it to stop ffs. 3. Its UI is simply outrageous, i.e. if you search something it shows empty folders among those that contain the item etc. I recommend NextCloud Passwords plugin: https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/passwords https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/passwords Its awesome, supports team work, and if you have NC its no brainer. Probably too much work to install NC if you don't use it but in small company settings its probalby good idea as you need online office anyway.

jsmith99 4y ago
Which bit of bitwarden is not FOSS?
- majkinetor 4y ago
  It looks like premium features are not foss, like SSO for example (but I might be wrong): https://bitwarden.com/help/about-sso https://bitwarden.com/help/about-sso > Login with SSO is available for all customers with an Enterprise organization
  - jsmith99 4y ago
    Only saw the reply late. All enterprise features seem fully open source. Eg SSO is in the source at https://github.com/bitwarden/server/tree/master/bitwarden_license/src/Sso https://github.com/bitwarden/server/tree/master/bitwarden_li... Correction: that part of the source seems to be only 'source available' rather than FOSS.
peterangular 4y ago
I moved to Bitwarden from KeePass and haven't looked back. The UIX of Bitwarden can be a bit meh at times but it's also boring, predictable, and solid. I'm just saying this as someone who hates save buttons in the upper-right hand corner of things - just... small nitpicky stuff like that. Sometimes I have to look for a button or their use of iconography confuses me a bit. I would do my own hosting for a distributed password database but the older I get the less I trust myself to keep that stuff locked down and patched. Given the number of users I feel Bitwarden has more skin in the game to keep their solutions tight. If you're not looking to self-host I can't recommend Bitwarden enough!
- quaintdev 4y ago
  I did reverse, I wonder what your reasons are.
  - peterangular 4y ago
    Needed a solution that I could use on all devices easily - browser, shell, phone... basically anywhere I need a password. KeePass isn't distributed by nature, relying on a filesystem DB - this worked for me for _years_ and is a fine system, but I started getting nervous using Google Drive to tote the database around from device to device. Also planning for my passing, I think it'll be easier for my SO to get into a simple web-based solution with my TFA scratch code if they need to handle any of my affairs vs. tracking down my KeePass file that would be behind disk encryption etc. Like I said - used KeePass for years, and I love it to death. I have just moved on in my usage and needs =)
    - quaintdev 4y ago
      I use Syncthing to sync tha password database across devices. It's been working like a charm. I needed something selfhosted and have used bitwarden for that until I got burned down when I could not recover the instance.
easeout 4y ago
LastPass is my go-to example for poor UI suggesting poor quality throughout.
yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> 2. It offers me to extend pro support 5 years after I stopped paying for it. What I need to do for it to stop ffs. Simply stop using LP and it should stop;P
jeffybefffy519 4y ago
Reading about what password managers people prefer is interesting and a good example of why UI is hard. The fact some people like lastpass UI is fascinating but also not surprising because it does have a less modern look that some people could be into.

jsmith99 4y ago

Which bit of bitwarden is not FOSS?

majkinetor 4y ago
It looks like premium features are not foss, like SSO for example (but I might be wrong): https://bitwarden.com/help/about-sso https://bitwarden.com/help/about-sso > Login with SSO is available for all customers with an Enterprise organization
- jsmith99 4y ago
  Only saw the reply late. All enterprise features seem fully open source. Eg SSO is in the source at https://github.com/bitwarden/server/tree/master/bitwarden_license/src/Sso https://github.com/bitwarden/server/tree/master/bitwarden_li... Correction: that part of the source seems to be only 'source available' rather than FOSS.

peterangular 4y ago

I moved to Bitwarden from KeePass and haven't looked back. The UIX of Bitwarden can be a bit meh at times but it's also boring, predictable, and solid. I'm just saying this as someone who hates save buttons in the upper-right hand corner of things - just... small nitpicky stuff like that. Sometimes I have to look for a button or their use of iconography confuses me a bit. I would do my own hosting for a distributed password database but the older I get the less I trust myself to keep that stuff locked down and patched. Given the number of users I feel Bitwarden has more skin in the game to keep their solutions tight. If you're not looking to self-host I can't recommend Bitwarden enough!

quaintdev 4y ago
I did reverse, I wonder what your reasons are.
- peterangular 4y ago
  Needed a solution that I could use on all devices easily - browser, shell, phone... basically anywhere I need a password. KeePass isn't distributed by nature, relying on a filesystem DB - this worked for me for _years_ and is a fine system, but I started getting nervous using Google Drive to tote the database around from device to device. Also planning for my passing, I think it'll be easier for my SO to get into a simple web-based solution with my TFA scratch code if they need to handle any of my affairs vs. tracking down my KeePass file that would be behind disk encryption etc. Like I said - used KeePass for years, and I love it to death. I have just moved on in my usage and needs =)
  - quaintdev 4y ago
    I use Syncthing to sync tha password database across devices. It's been working like a charm. I needed something selfhosted and have used bitwarden for that until I got burned down when I could not recover the instance.

easeout 4y ago

LastPass is my go-to example for poor UI suggesting poor quality throughout.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

> 2. It offers me to extend pro support 5 years after I stopped paying for it. What I need to do for it to stop ffs. Simply stop using LP and it should stop;P

jeffybefffy519 4y ago

Reading about what password managers people prefer is interesting and a good example of why UI is hard. The fact some people like lastpass UI is fascinating but also not surprising because it does have a less modern look that some people could be into.