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poor-man's market research: Would you (not your belief about others) be interested in co-working / co-living locales, in different countries (think Costa Rica,

poor-man's market research: Would you (not your belief about others) be interested in co-working / co-living locales, in different countries (think Costa Rica, Tenerife, Zanzibar) with excellent maintained QoS connectivity, and (higher tier offering) where your right to work (local work visa) for your home-country employer / clients was looked after by the company hosting the network of sites? Goal: to liberate you to maintain your employ but hopping from locale to locale on a monthly or even weekly basis, with diverse life experiences to go with it. (cue HNers posting links of offerings that already exist but I promise from experience don't really offer at any ubiquity or scale) Important caveat: assume your home country's tax regulations have no contest with your working physically from outside its borders.

PuppyTailWags 4y ago
Me personally, no. Nomadic lifestyles prevent one from pursuing the kind of hobbies I would like to pursue (exotic pets and plants).
- ricksunny 4y ago
  That makes sense - cool hobbies! =)
  - PuppyTailWags 4y ago
    Thanks! If a counterpoint would be helpful, I know someone around my age where a nomadic lifestyle would be perfect for because his hobby is traveling.
    - ricksunny 4y ago
      Indeed, when I think of all the resumes & CVs I've come across whose personal interests line at the end says "Hobbies: traveling", I'm led to wonder why more people don't seem to allow themselves the creativity to integrate their work alongside their hobby of preference. Those such that I have met in passing in far-flung locales had taken grest pains to structure their work lives $ careers around the location-independent capability. I just thought more should have that opportunity of they could be facilitated to.
wonderwonder 4y ago
Prior to getting married and having kids, absolutely. After, not at all unfortunately
- ricksunny 4y ago
  Thank you for that feedback, helpful to understand that segmentation :) I'm guessing that traveling with family / setting kids up in local schools or remote learning is a non-starter?
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    I cannot imagine moving weekly or monthly with kids in school. I think that's not going to be fair to the vast, vast majority of kids and their need to develop friendships over a multi-month to multi-year timeframe.
  - wonderwonder 4y ago
    Yup, exactly. Wife's job is hybrid so could probably overcome that obstacle and get to fully remote. Kids though have friends and an established school. Can't really justify pulling them out of their established lives now. If we had always been nomadic then not a big deal but hard to change now.
oceanplexian 4y ago
I personally would be in the target market, however I've typically rented AirBNB's in different countries and worked from there. So there would have to be some kind of upside over that for it to be worth it. That said, biggest problem with "working from a different country" for me is self control. It's hard to actually be productive when the weather is beautiful, lots of interesting things are going on, and the beach is calling. Perhaps a co-working, or some kind of organized offsite with coworkers could change that.
- ricksunny 4y ago
  Love all that valuable feedback. • Likewise I also do a lot of airbnbs in different countries too. In a new region though I usually encounter a kind of fishbowl syndrome - there's always some small area where people 'in the know' seem to congregate around - like the hindsight obvious neighborhood or cafe for get-up-and-running-quickly nomadding. Takes me days to find those locales from square-one in a new region because I haven't met the savvy folks yet, if the locale even exists in a given area. I often wish there was a go-to network for that (there is, it's just a bit sparse coverage still especially the more rural / developibg country you find yourself in. • I love the articulating of tbe hard-to-be-productive-because-beacb problem. I definitely hit that in coastal Zanzibar earlier this year.I actually think that's a really worthwhile problem to solve, probably by siting a co-working / co-living community more inland.(Like, there's a reason why Obama wrote his book in inland Ubud of Bali rather than coastal Denpasar).
bobwaycott 4y ago
Absolutely, if the locations are a good personal fit. Looking into that right now as a recent empty-nester. Weekly hopping is too frequent for me, however, and a month feels barely long enough. I’ve been looking at 90-day minimum stays, with a preference for 6 months to a year. Feel free to reach out if you’d like to chat with someone seriously interested in this.
- ricksunny 4y ago
  That's great to understand: Just messaged :) Totally hadn't thought of the empty-nester persona yet makes a lot of sense - I wonder if it represents a decently sized segment..?

PuppyTailWags 4y ago

Me personally, no. Nomadic lifestyles prevent one from pursuing the kind of hobbies I would like to pursue (exotic pets and plants).

ricksunny 4y ago
That makes sense - cool hobbies! =)
- PuppyTailWags 4y ago
  Thanks! If a counterpoint would be helpful, I know someone around my age where a nomadic lifestyle would be perfect for because his hobby is traveling.
  - ricksunny 4y ago
    Indeed, when I think of all the resumes & CVs I've come across whose personal interests line at the end says "Hobbies: traveling", I'm led to wonder why more people don't seem to allow themselves the creativity to integrate their work alongside their hobby of preference. Those such that I have met in passing in far-flung locales had taken grest pains to structure their work lives $ careers around the location-independent capability. I just thought more should have that opportunity of they could be facilitated to.

wonderwonder 4y ago

Prior to getting married and having kids, absolutely. After, not at all unfortunately

ricksunny 4y ago
Thank you for that feedback, helpful to understand that segmentation :) I'm guessing that traveling with family / setting kids up in local schools or remote learning is a non-starter?
- sokoloff 4y ago
  I cannot imagine moving weekly or monthly with kids in school. I think that's not going to be fair to the vast, vast majority of kids and their need to develop friendships over a multi-month to multi-year timeframe.
- wonderwonder 4y ago
  Yup, exactly. Wife's job is hybrid so could probably overcome that obstacle and get to fully remote. Kids though have friends and an established school. Can't really justify pulling them out of their established lives now. If we had always been nomadic then not a big deal but hard to change now.

oceanplexian 4y ago

I personally would be in the target market, however I've typically rented AirBNB's in different countries and worked from there. So there would have to be some kind of upside over that for it to be worth it. That said, biggest problem with "working from a different country" for me is self control. It's hard to actually be productive when the weather is beautiful, lots of interesting things are going on, and the beach is calling. Perhaps a co-working, or some kind of organized offsite with coworkers could change that.

ricksunny 4y ago
Love all that valuable feedback. • Likewise I also do a lot of airbnbs in different countries too. In a new region though I usually encounter a kind of fishbowl syndrome - there's always some small area where people 'in the know' seem to congregate around - like the hindsight obvious neighborhood or cafe for get-up-and-running-quickly nomadding. Takes me days to find those locales from square-one in a new region because I haven't met the savvy folks yet, if the locale even exists in a given area. I often wish there was a go-to network for that (there is, it's just a bit sparse coverage still especially the more rural / developibg country you find yourself in. • I love the articulating of tbe hard-to-be-productive-because-beacb problem. I definitely hit that in coastal Zanzibar earlier this year.I actually think that's a really worthwhile problem to solve, probably by siting a co-working / co-living community more inland.(Like, there's a reason why Obama wrote his book in inland Ubud of Bali rather than coastal Denpasar).

bobwaycott 4y ago

Absolutely, if the locations are a good personal fit. Looking into that right now as a recent empty-nester. Weekly hopping is too frequent for me, however, and a month feels barely long enough. I’ve been looking at 90-day minimum stays, with a preference for 6 months to a year. Feel free to reach out if you’d like to chat with someone seriously interested in this.

ricksunny 4y ago
That's great to understand: Just messaged :) Totally hadn't thought of the empty-nester persona yet makes a lot of sense - I wonder if it represents a decently sized segment..?