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I think the difference is one of degree, not kind. Two perspectives 1) harder to get many calories through beverages than it is foods. Mentally I’m weighing a

I think the difference is one of degree, not kind. Two perspectives 1) harder to get many calories through beverages than it is foods. Mentally I’m weighing a coke against the burger mentioned up thread, so this one might fall down to a cursory inspection of liquid and solid offerings in nearby vending machines. 2) harder to get more calories when your selection is limited. If you would buy a coke and a snickers but you can only buy soda then you won’t buy two you will just skip the snickers. So, probably a couple other more reasonable perspectives to explore before resorting to obvious hyperbole.

cdcarter 4y ago
It is famously easier to get larger amounts of calories through drinking (doesn't make you feel full) than eating.
- burnished 4y ago
  Does that hold for our hypothetical vending machine situation? Assuming your standard average test human only hits the machines once a day, getting a soda every hour would line up with what you are suggesting
Lio 4y ago
The burger is not health food by any means but not all calories are equal. There’s more in the burger but the absorption rate is much lower compared to the liquid sugar in the soda which will go straight through the gut. Some of the burger is probably going to be passed undigested and the protein and fat are going to need energy to break down before they can be used. Meanwhile the sugar in the soda is immediately available to be used or stored as body fat. Pius you can keep drinking that stuff all day in between meals without ever feeling full.
- burnished 4y ago
  1) the real point is that there is no reason to hyperbolically ask if the vending machine is only serving water 2) good point, I should further clarify my assumption that I’m thinking of a McDonald’s hamburger that I last saw listed at 1200 calories, and I’m presuming a soda in the range of 300-400. At that point I’d believe that the caloric intake would be the dominant factor 3) if you want to get into the nitty gritty then the next step would be a case study, get an idea of offerings and popular items in different locales, that sort of thing.
  - Lio 4y ago
    > I should further clarify my assumption that I’m thinking of a McDonald’s hamburger that I last saw listed at 1200 calories, and I’m presuming a soda in the range of 300-400. A McDondald's hamburger is only 250kcal here in the UK and even a US cheeseburger is only 300 cal. 1200 calories is more like a full meal including chips and, as it happens, soda. - https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/good-to-know/nutrition-calculator.html https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/good-to-know/nutrition-ca... https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/cheeseburger.html https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/cheeseburger.html
    - burnished 4y ago
      I accused you of hyperbole because I did not think anywhere in the world sold just water, or at least no high sugar beverages like coke in a vending machine. If that question was meant in earnest then I apologize. I think that cheeseburger might not be representative, the quarter pounder might be more so [1], at 520 calories, regardless I think it’s clear that my calorie estimate was wrong and plainly too high (I think you are correct that I was referring to the meal option calories), I retract my claim that total calorie count was likely the dominant factor. That leaves me without further points as I have conceded or apologized on the ones that mattered to me. I think that means I went off half cocked, my bad, thank you for explaining yourself to me. [1] https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/quarter-pounder-with-cheese.html https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/quarter-pounder-w...
      - Lio 4y ago
        Not at all. You’re all good fella. No offence taken and no apology needed.
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cdcarter 4y ago

It is famously easier to get larger amounts of calories through drinking (doesn't make you feel full) than eating.

burnished 4y ago
Does that hold for our hypothetical vending machine situation? Assuming your standard average test human only hits the machines once a day, getting a soda every hour would line up with what you are suggesting

Lio 4y ago

The burger is not health food by any means but not all calories are equal. There’s more in the burger but the absorption rate is much lower compared to the liquid sugar in the soda which will go straight through the gut. Some of the burger is probably going to be passed undigested and the protein and fat are going to need energy to break down before they can be used. Meanwhile the sugar in the soda is immediately available to be used or stored as body fat. Pius you can keep drinking that stuff all day in between meals without ever feeling full.

burnished 4y ago
1) the real point is that there is no reason to hyperbolically ask if the vending machine is only serving water 2) good point, I should further clarify my assumption that I’m thinking of a McDonald’s hamburger that I last saw listed at 1200 calories, and I’m presuming a soda in the range of 300-400. At that point I’d believe that the caloric intake would be the dominant factor 3) if you want to get into the nitty gritty then the next step would be a case study, get an idea of offerings and popular items in different locales, that sort of thing.
- Lio 4y ago
  > I should further clarify my assumption that I’m thinking of a McDonald’s hamburger that I last saw listed at 1200 calories, and I’m presuming a soda in the range of 300-400. A McDondald's hamburger is only 250kcal here in the UK and even a US cheeseburger is only 300 cal. 1200 calories is more like a full meal including chips and, as it happens, soda. - https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/good-to-know/nutrition-calculator.html https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/good-to-know/nutrition-ca... https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/cheeseburger.html https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/cheeseburger.html
  - burnished 4y ago
    I accused you of hyperbole because I did not think anywhere in the world sold just water, or at least no high sugar beverages like coke in a vending machine. If that question was meant in earnest then I apologize. I think that cheeseburger might not be representative, the quarter pounder might be more so [1], at 520 calories, regardless I think it’s clear that my calorie estimate was wrong and plainly too high (I think you are correct that I was referring to the meal option calories), I retract my claim that total calorie count was likely the dominant factor. That leaves me without further points as I have conceded or apologized on the ones that mattered to me. I think that means I went off half cocked, my bad, thank you for explaining yourself to me. [1] https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/quarter-pounder-with-cheese.html https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/quarter-pounder-w...
    - Lio 4y ago
      Not at all. You’re all good fella. No offence taken and no apology needed.
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