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Those are not the natural forms of any animal's meat any more than they are the natural forms of vegetables. What you actually seem to be saying is "How dare ve

by chc 4y ago

Those are not the natural forms of any animal's meat any more than they are the natural forms of vegetables. What you actually seem to be saying is "How dare vegetarians prepare their food in similar ways to how I do?" The idea that vegans are being sneaky with their foods is kind of funny considering the usual reputation of vegans is best captured in the joke "How do you know if someone is a vegan? Don't worry, they will tell you."

dmitriid 4y ago
> Those are not the natural forms of any animal's meat any more than they are the natural forms of vegetables. Ah yes. The non-natural form of "vegetables that taste like pork hamburger". Funnily how you never see meat producst disguised or sold as replicas of non-meat products.
- chc 4y ago
  Animal products are constantly stuck into foods that are not clearly animal-derived. Every vegan is familiar with the experience of having to read the ingredients list on foods to look for random animal products or ask waiters if (for example) their Brussels sprouts are vegan. Many people don't realize that Jello is an animal products. Some "vanilla" flavoring is made from animals. Confectioner's glaze, many food colorings, Starburst candy, etc. And meat is very often covered or marinated in vegetables during preparation, leading to meat the incorporates the flavors of vegetables. The idea that vegetarians invented the concept of making a food look or taste different from its natural form is simply unrealistic. But more fundamentally, I'm not sure what you're getting at. If "giving foods a different flavor or texture" were a totally new idea that vegetarians came up with, so what? Are you allergic to vegetables, but constantly being tricked into eating vegan food? What is the problem here?
  - dmitriid 4y ago
    > If "giving foods a different flavor or texture" were a totally new idea that vegetarians came up with, so what? It definitely isn't. Their new idea is get on a high horse about plant-based foods, but then going out of their ways to pretend it's meat.

by chc 4y ago

dmitriid 4y ago

> Those are not the natural forms of any animal's meat any more than they are the natural forms of vegetables. Ah yes. The non-natural form of "vegetables that taste like pork hamburger". Funnily how you never see meat producst disguised or sold as replicas of non-meat products.

chc 4y ago
Animal products are constantly stuck into foods that are not clearly animal-derived. Every vegan is familiar with the experience of having to read the ingredients list on foods to look for random animal products or ask waiters if (for example) their Brussels sprouts are vegan. Many people don't realize that Jello is an animal products. Some "vanilla" flavoring is made from animals. Confectioner's glaze, many food colorings, Starburst candy, etc. And meat is very often covered or marinated in vegetables during preparation, leading to meat the incorporates the flavors of vegetables. The idea that vegetarians invented the concept of making a food look or taste different from its natural form is simply unrealistic. But more fundamentally, I'm not sure what you're getting at. If "giving foods a different flavor or texture" were a totally new idea that vegetarians came up with, so what? Are you allergic to vegetables, but constantly being tricked into eating vegan food? What is the problem here?
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > If "giving foods a different flavor or texture" were a totally new idea that vegetarians came up with, so what? It definitely isn't. Their new idea is get on a high horse about plant-based foods, but then going out of their ways to pretend it's meat.