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Dislike. Advertising is what gives cities their unique visual culture. We associate different typographic 'looks' with different cities. Where would Miami be wi

Dislike. Advertising is what gives cities their unique visual culture. We associate different typographic 'looks' with different cities. Where would Miami be without its bold, ostentatious signage? Where would New York City be without its iconic frankin gothic and gotham centered visual culture?

spodek 15y ago
I remember hearing things like this before the indoor smoking ban a few years ago. People said it was part of what bars and clubs were for. In particular, New York City establishments said people who came in from the suburbs and brought money in would stop coming in. The ban was successful. A year or two later Hoboken passed a ban because people were increasingly going into the city for the cleaner indoor air they couldn't get in Hoboken. As a New Yorker of over two decades, I'd love to see such a ban here, perhaps with some areas, like Times Square, zoned to allow it. As with smoking, I expect a large majority would support it once implemented.
- r00fus 15y ago
  Which is to say, some places like Las Vegas might not want to implement it. However, it is the purview of government to legislate things like this to establish protection of the "commons".
- vl 15y ago
  Hah, ironically Times Square is already zoned other way around - when new building owner wanted to reduce number of the billboards on the building, they couldn't because city quickly passed regulation to keep them up.
emp_ 15y ago
Sao Paulo has also recently (2 years?) banned smoking indoors, you do get through a lot of smoke while walking on the street but you don't have to think before going inside a bar or restaurant, better quality of life I guess.
rayiner 15y ago
> Advertising is what gives cities their unique visual culture. No it doesn't. Architecture, etc, does that. More to the point, cities are where people live, not works of art. Seeing all the advertisements in Manhattan might be fun for tourists, but they're straining for people who live there.

spodek 15y ago

I remember hearing things like this before the indoor smoking ban a few years ago. People said it was part of what bars and clubs were for. In particular, New York City establishments said people who came in from the suburbs and brought money in would stop coming in. The ban was successful. A year or two later Hoboken passed a ban because people were increasingly going into the city for the cleaner indoor air they couldn't get in Hoboken. As a New Yorker of over two decades, I'd love to see such a ban here, perhaps with some areas, like Times Square, zoned to allow it. As with smoking, I expect a large majority would support it once implemented.

r00fus 15y ago
Which is to say, some places like Las Vegas might not want to implement it. However, it is the purview of government to legislate things like this to establish protection of the "commons".
vl 15y ago
Hah, ironically Times Square is already zoned other way around - when new building owner wanted to reduce number of the billboards on the building, they couldn't because city quickly passed regulation to keep them up.

emp_ 15y ago

Sao Paulo has also recently (2 years?) banned smoking indoors, you do get through a lot of smoke while walking on the street but you don't have to think before going inside a bar or restaurant, better quality of life I guess.

rayiner 15y ago

> Advertising is what gives cities their unique visual culture. No it doesn't. Architecture, etc, does that. More to the point, cities are where people live, not works of art. Seeing all the advertisements in Manhattan might be fun for tourists, but they're straining for people who live there.