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I don't know how much experience you have with babies, yes they cry for a reason. Sometimes that reason is they need/want something, sometimes it is because the

I don't know how much experience you have with babies, yes they cry for a reason. Sometimes that reason is they need/want something, sometimes it is because they are gassy and their stomach hurts. Sometimes it is because they are tired, in which case it may be preferential to help them learn that they should sleep when tired and not cry and keep themselves awake. Also you talk about parental selfishness. Parents have to be selfish and kids have to learn to wait. Parental mental health is important, especially for first time parents. Babies will take everything you give them and still want more, it is up to the parent to set boundaries. One of the first pieces of advice I have seen and heard from many sources to new parents is that if the baby is crying and you can no longer handle the stress, to put the baby in a safe place and go for a walk. The reason we have this messaging being shared so widely is because new parents have a societal expectation that they MUST do everything to take care of the baby and if it is crying then you are not doing a good job, that expectation and view is what leads to shaken babies and infanticide.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago
Of course, but this is talking about extreme cases. Co-sleeping and sleep training are day-to-day instead.
- themaninthedark 4y ago
  Par of what I am getting at is that stress builds up over time but sometimes very quickly. Especially for new parents. And you can not predict how the parents will react mentally to this stress. When we label things, such as postpartum depression, we can discuss the issue. But I think that sometimes we forget that we have to make changes to stop having the same outcomes. When a new parent ends up killing their child(ren), it is easy for us to say, "Well they had postpartum depression" but what have we gained as a society except a way to blame or assign the tragedy. Demanding the person who is in the midst of postpartum depression to identify that and then seek help is absolutely insane. We as a society need to look at how and what pressure we put on others as well as be able to have open conversation about the stresses in order to prevent deaths.
realworldperson 4y ago
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Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y ago

Of course, but this is talking about extreme cases. Co-sleeping and sleep training are day-to-day instead.

themaninthedark 4y ago
Par of what I am getting at is that stress builds up over time but sometimes very quickly. Especially for new parents. And you can not predict how the parents will react mentally to this stress. When we label things, such as postpartum depression, we can discuss the issue. But I think that sometimes we forget that we have to make changes to stop having the same outcomes. When a new parent ends up killing their child(ren), it is easy for us to say, "Well they had postpartum depression" but what have we gained as a society except a way to blame or assign the tragedy. Demanding the person who is in the midst of postpartum depression to identify that and then seek help is absolutely insane. We as a society need to look at how and what pressure we put on others as well as be able to have open conversation about the stresses in order to prevent deaths.

realworldperson 4y ago

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