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Knowing Pittsburgh, I had a feeling before I clicked that this would become a sort of philosophical exploration of what exactly constitutes a 'street' with not

Knowing Pittsburgh, I had a feeling before I clicked that this would become a sort of philosophical exploration of what exactly constitutes a 'street' with not quite conclusive results. Glad to not be disappointed, what a delightful video.

mgce 4y ago
I've done something similar - and less ambitious - on bike in NYC: I biked all Brooklyn and at this point 90% of Manhattan. I bet Pittsburgh is next-level confusing. But I think the philosophical questions apply anywhere. I enjoyed that as much as the actual endurance, and I loved seeing him dedicate so much time to that. It's not obvious when you start how subtle these questions get. Challenges I remember: - what level of highway counts. Some surface road highways are clearly navigable. Interstates obviously aren't. - on-ramps. When does a local road end and highway begin? What do you do when the ramp is a gradual transition from a local road? - divided roads (i.e. parallel north/south roads separated by a median, highway service roads) - roads that peter out into alleys, sort of go through peoples' property, may be fenced off, may be legal thoroughfares even if fenced off - campus road networks with varying levels of gate access / accessibility - access roads behind apartment complexes that only led to driveways - housing project street grids - park roads, bike paths, walking paths, trails - intersections with distinct turn lanes, plazas in the middle, etc. - highways / bridges only accessible once a year (i.e. dedicated bike tours)
- mgce 4y ago
  Examples: - old beach lanes: https://shorturl.at/fty07 https://shorturl.at/fty07 - apartment road network: https://shorturl.at/cikrR https://shorturl.at/cikrR - waste management access road: https://shorturl.at/bjM17 https://shorturl.at/bjM17 - one conceptual road; three physical roads and median bike path: https://shorturl.at/eJS68 https://shorturl.at/eJS68 - center lanes become a bridge: https://shorturl.at/tvxLU https://shorturl.at/tvxLU - complex intersections: https://shorturl.at/fxAC4 https://shorturl.at/fxAC4 - apartment entrance loop: https://shorturl.at/bgDKU https://shorturl.at/bgDKU - technically a road: https://shorturl.at/eJNYZ https://shorturl.at/eJNYZ - checkpoint for an entire neighborhood: https://shorturl.at/vzLP1 https://shorturl.at/vzLP1
1auralynn 4y ago
Yeah, I lived on a "street" called Shady Forbes Terrace, which was actually just a sidewalk.
- f154hfds 4y ago
  I know that street! Small world.

mgce 4y ago

I've done something similar - and less ambitious - on bike in NYC: I biked all Brooklyn and at this point 90% of Manhattan. I bet Pittsburgh is next-level confusing. But I think the philosophical questions apply anywhere. I enjoyed that as much as the actual endurance, and I loved seeing him dedicate so much time to that. It's not obvious when you start how subtle these questions get. Challenges I remember: - what level of highway counts. Some surface road highways are clearly navigable. Interstates obviously aren't. - on-ramps. When does a local road end and highway begin? What do you do when the ramp is a gradual transition from a local road? - divided roads (i.e. parallel north/south roads separated by a median, highway service roads) - roads that peter out into alleys, sort of go through peoples' property, may be fenced off, may be legal thoroughfares even if fenced off - campus road networks with varying levels of gate access / accessibility - access roads behind apartment complexes that only led to driveways - housing project street grids - park roads, bike paths, walking paths, trails - intersections with distinct turn lanes, plazas in the middle, etc. - highways / bridges only accessible once a year (i.e. dedicated bike tours)

mgce 4y ago
Examples: - old beach lanes: https://shorturl.at/fty07 https://shorturl.at/fty07 - apartment road network: https://shorturl.at/cikrR https://shorturl.at/cikrR - waste management access road: https://shorturl.at/bjM17 https://shorturl.at/bjM17 - one conceptual road; three physical roads and median bike path: https://shorturl.at/eJS68 https://shorturl.at/eJS68 - center lanes become a bridge: https://shorturl.at/tvxLU https://shorturl.at/tvxLU - complex intersections: https://shorturl.at/fxAC4 https://shorturl.at/fxAC4 - apartment entrance loop: https://shorturl.at/bgDKU https://shorturl.at/bgDKU - technically a road: https://shorturl.at/eJNYZ https://shorturl.at/eJNYZ - checkpoint for an entire neighborhood: https://shorturl.at/vzLP1 https://shorturl.at/vzLP1

1auralynn 4y ago

Yeah, I lived on a "street" called Shady Forbes Terrace, which was actually just a sidewalk.

f154hfds 4y ago
I know that street! Small world.