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This again the HN tech bubble. That TC is around average for most senior software engineers in most corporations in most US cities in the US. And getting into

This again the HN tech bubble. That TC is around average for most senior software engineers in most corporations in most US cities in the US. And getting into a tech company and having high compensation doesn’t require “top talent”. Just the ability to memorize DS&A (junior to mid) and memorize system design and being able to regurgitate answers to behavioral questions showing “scope” and “impact”. It takes knowing two or three well known algorithms to implement the scheduling problem they are trying to solve and system design chops to know how to scale it. But, as far as having to be on hold for hours, that’s a staffing issue. Most of their issues are symptoms of poor management - not software engineers.

benced 4y ago
To be clear, I don’t think you can blame these software engineers. Management has decided the average value of a tech lead to them is about 175K and they are getting that quality of engineer. I think their current tech issues suggest that the value management is placing on engineers is lower than it should be. Like I said earlier in the thread - there are many bad engineers that are overpaid and many good engineers that are underpaid. On average though, compensation and quality are correlated. In the absence of additional information, compensation is the best metric we have to asses the quality of the underlying engineering talent. It also passes the sniff test - try using the Southwest Airlines app!
- scarface74 4y ago
  Again, you are just as deep in your bubble as everyone else. There are 2.7 million developers in the US. The vast majority of them are paid between $80K-$170k. They are working in banks, government, smaller startups, etc. And it doesn’t take a $400K senior developer that can reverse a binary tree on the whiteboard while juggling bowling balls while riding a unicycle on a tightrope to make a mobile app. How much do you think Delta developers make in Atlanta (hint: they aren’t making over 200K). Their app is excellent. It never ceases to amaze me how little most people on HN know about compensation throughout the industry.

benced 4y ago

To be clear, I don’t think you can blame these software engineers. Management has decided the average value of a tech lead to them is about 175K and they are getting that quality of engineer. I think their current tech issues suggest that the value management is placing on engineers is lower than it should be. Like I said earlier in the thread - there are many bad engineers that are overpaid and many good engineers that are underpaid. On average though, compensation and quality are correlated. In the absence of additional information, compensation is the best metric we have to asses the quality of the underlying engineering talent. It also passes the sniff test - try using the Southwest Airlines app!

scarface74 4y ago
Again, you are just as deep in your bubble as everyone else. There are 2.7 million developers in the US. The vast majority of them are paid between $80K-$170k. They are working in banks, government, smaller startups, etc. And it doesn’t take a $400K senior developer that can reverse a binary tree on the whiteboard while juggling bowling balls while riding a unicycle on a tightrope to make a mobile app. How much do you think Delta developers make in Atlanta (hint: they aren’t making over 200K). Their app is excellent. It never ceases to amaze me how little most people on HN know about compensation throughout the industry.