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Why get those instead of modern Ryzens that are much faster at the same power levels?

bullen 4y ago
Because I trust Intel and I don't see Mini-ITX motherboards with server grade quality for Ryzen... The only AMD I have ever had was a Thinkpad X100e and that convinced me to never buy anything AMD again. That said, X86 and ARM are peaking together so it does not matter what you buy, the M1 might save you some electricity but at peak performance below what a Xeon can deliver. For parallelism on the same atomic memory more than 4 cores will invalidate too much cache. And if you have a embarrassingly parallelizable problem you might as well use Raspberry 4.
- densh 4y ago
  In microATX form factor Asrock has had a number of AM4 motherboards with IPMI and ECC RAM available for a long time. For example: https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X570D4U#Specifications https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X... AMD is now firmly ahead in performance/watt, and in peak performance on most server-side benchmarks (see phoronix). Xeon superiority is a thing of the past. The only area where Intel is competitive is in AVX512 workloads.
  - bullen 4y ago
    Micro-ATX is too big. This is how you build a 75W server that lasts 100 years and can do AI too :D, just remove the GPU for no AI: http://move.rupy.se/file/xeon_1030.png http://move.rupy.se/file/xeon_1030.png
- sofixa 4y ago
  Making decisions based on opinions that are 12 years old is stupid in any niche, let alone in tech where things change quickly. AMD have been the best bang for buck for what now, 5-6 years? Brand loyalty here doesn't make much sense.
  - bullen 4y ago
    I don't know where you have been for the last 10 years but NOTHING has improved, my Ivy Bridge CPU with DDR3 RAM has lower latency than anything released today. SSDs peaked in 2011 with X-25E at 65nm and 100.000 writes per bit. From C64 to today you have 1.000-10.000x per watt... if your Ryzen is 2x better than Intel it's irrelevant in that context. The hard thing now is longevity, since the hardware does not improve. It's over, time to start writing better software!
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Because I trust Intel and I don't see Mini-ITX motherboards with server grade quality for Ryzen... The only AMD I have ever had was a Thinkpad X100e and that convinced me to never buy anything AMD again. That said, X86 and ARM are peaking together so it does not matter what you buy, the M1 might save you some electricity but at peak performance below what a Xeon can deliver. For parallelism on the same atomic memory more than 4 cores will invalidate too much cache. And if you have a embarrassingly parallelizable problem you might as well use Raspberry 4.

densh 4y ago
In microATX form factor Asrock has had a number of AM4 motherboards with IPMI and ECC RAM available for a long time. For example: https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X570D4U#Specifications https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X... AMD is now firmly ahead in performance/watt, and in peak performance on most server-side benchmarks (see phoronix). Xeon superiority is a thing of the past. The only area where Intel is competitive is in AVX512 workloads.
- bullen 4y ago
  Micro-ATX is too big. This is how you build a 75W server that lasts 100 years and can do AI too :D, just remove the GPU for no AI: http://move.rupy.se/file/xeon_1030.png http://move.rupy.se/file/xeon_1030.png
sofixa 4y ago
Making decisions based on opinions that are 12 years old is stupid in any niche, let alone in tech where things change quickly. AMD have been the best bang for buck for what now, 5-6 years? Brand loyalty here doesn't make much sense.
- bullen 4y ago
  I don't know where you have been for the last 10 years but NOTHING has improved, my Ivy Bridge CPU with DDR3 RAM has lower latency than anything released today. SSDs peaked in 2011 with X-25E at 65nm and 100.000 writes per bit. From C64 to today you have 1.000-10.000x per watt... if your Ryzen is 2x better than Intel it's irrelevant in that context. The hard thing now is longevity, since the hardware does not improve. It's over, time to start writing better software!

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