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You have to applaud this guy, getting an ethernet card and a video card in an SE/30 would have been impressive way back in the 1980s, let alone now. From memor
by smackeyacky 4y ago
You have to applaud this guy, getting an ethernet card and a video card in an SE/30 would have been impressive way back in the 1980s, let alone now.
From memory at the university, we had Fastpath boxes (maybe before they were bought by Shiva). At one point about a decade ago I got nostalgic for classic macs and hooked 512 up in my garage with a Fastpath. Took me a while to get enough working localtalk adaptors and whatnot to set it up, and another while to track down the right networking software to get it working.
Turned it on, configured, whoah I have an IP address in MacTCP. Got it file sharing off the house Linux server. Fired up macwww and pointed it at google and about 15 minutes later, after heroically trying to render the page I got a few characters and nothing recognisable. An SE/30 is miles faster than a 512 so you might be able to do something useful with it, but macwww didn't render graphics and chokes on anything that isn't plain html.
I think it would be even worse now, you would need a HTTPS/HTTP proxy to get anything at all.
Nostalgic computing is awfully fun but all the fun is in the setup, finding parts, working on solutions etc. The end product is generally underwhelming but the journey is the real reward.
- anthk 4y agoOr just a gopher client against gopher://hngopher.com :D. gopher://magical.fish has lots of sites.
- retrac 4y agoA clever hacker has gone and ported a modern SSL library to System 7, plus SSH [1]. Runs on a 68030+ Mac. OpenTransport, not MacTCP. And I imagine key exchange takes a few minutes... but yeah, you can ssh into a contemporary machine over the open Internet using a Mac SE/30 under System 7. (You could also just run NetBSD on the thing and run an entirely modern stack, in theory. The SE/30 can take 128 MB of RAM. It's one of the oldest machines out there that can run a current operating system! Though I'm unsure whether Firefox would finish loading before the heat death of the universe.) [1] https://github.com/cy384/ssheven https://github.com/cy384/ssheven
- OnlyMortal 4y agoI recall GUSI on the Mac. A socket style interface that sat on top of OT and MacTCP, depending what was available. Made life easier.