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So a tomato picked by a trained monkey would be plant-based but not vegan? What about canned tomatoes picked by quasi-slaves on some mafia farm in calabria? Wou
by namdnay 4y ago
So a tomato picked by a trained monkey would be plant-based but not vegan? What about canned tomatoes picked by quasi-slaves on some mafia farm in calabria? Would they not be vegan then?
- onion2k 4y agoIf you're OK with eating food picked by slaves, quasi- or otherwise, then you have more to think about than veganism.
- namdnay 4y agomy question was more on how this is tracked/labelled. if something is sold in the UK with the vegan logo, does that mean it is also free from human exploitation?
- philwelch 4y agoAre you aware of how lithium ion batteries are made?
- vel0city 4y agoAre you aware of how oil production proceeds fund global terrorism and warlords? Guess you can't buy any gasoline, since some % of oil is sold on the market from warlords committing atrocities in their countries. Did you know when you buy gasoline at the pump you're supporting a market which buys missiles for Saudi Arabia to bomb Yemen?
- philwelch 4y agoMy point exactly. It’s almost impossible to maintain these kinds of standards with our modern global supply chains.
- rsj_hn 4y agoSlavoj Zizek discusses this idea of "ethical consumerism" in a beautifully illustrated talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpAMbpQ8J7g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpAMbpQ8J7g Needless to say, the idea that you are "supporting" something by voluntary exchange (how do you know that they aren't supporting you?) is a relatively recent development, and is of course completely unworkable. It's just another form of retail therapy.