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I’d be ok living someplace rural and occasionally staying overnight in a larger city as long as the issue we have in America doesn’t exist in NL - in USA rural

I’d be ok living someplace rural and occasionally staying overnight in a larger city as long as the issue we have in America doesn’t exist in NL - in USA rural means lots of annoying right wingers. Also not great transit whereas in NL could get by wo a car right? As for herring, not a vegetarian, and while I’m usually a full on dirtbag leftist in terms of interaction style I’d be ok turning it down to passive aggressive for diplomacy’s sake, especially when it’s a holiday ;-)

aebtebeten 4y ago
> I feel bad about it being an Italian passport I'll defer to any HN actual Italiani, but my impression is that they have a similar[0] relationship with bureaucracy as the french: the man spends so much time keeping you down, that if you find a loophole that works in your favour, go ahead and stick it to him. Other NL suggestions: Bergen, Noordwijk, Laren. Especially the last, if you're looking for cosmopolitan outlook. Don't worry about lots of annoying right wingers in rural areas. There may be somewhat more proportionately[1], but they won't be annoying[2]. Minding one's own business is, it seems, more of a european[6] virtue than a US. [0] imx "verboten" means people don't do it; "defense de" means not if cops are watching; and "vietato" means sometimes even the cops do it. [1] where I live, the far right party is nominally a "farmers' party" (despite being controlled by urban industrialists). But just about the only way I'd know they have a lot of support here is by the number of placards (which used to feature the national flag but they've since figured it wasn't working for them) at election time. And I am an obvious foreigner[3], even without opening my mouth[5]. [2] bumper stickers are few and far between here, so jacked up pickups festooned with political flags are right out. [3] one of my favourite anecdotes is the guy who was telling me about all the problems with foreigners[4], only to pause his rant in the middle so he could go help a swarthy young mother in religious headcover get her baby carriage onto the train. [4] "I'm a foreigner too, remember" "Yes, but you're not one of those foreigners" [5] fwiw, I feel more at home here as a foreigner[6] than I did in the Old Country as a native-born citizen. [6] the local stance is less one of left/right identity politics and more one of (regardless of one's political views) sorrow for all those poor saps who have the horrendous misfortune to live in one of those neighbouring villages, 10-15km away.
- greggarious 4y ago
  >imx "verboten" means people don't do it; "defense de" means not if cops are watching; and "vietato" means sometimes even the cops do it. Ty this is useful we need a similar breakdown in English imho - I had severe issues w harassment because of the police/local officials sometimes treating things as “vietato” and other times much more severely depending on if your politics are well liked. (With my politics being I’d be in the NDP in Canada not… literally a communist or someone who’s gonna go full v for vendetta)

aebtebeten 4y ago

> I feel bad about it being an Italian passport I'll defer to any HN actual Italiani, but my impression is that they have a similar[0] relationship with bureaucracy as the french: the man spends so much time keeping you down, that if you find a loophole that works in your favour, go ahead and stick it to him. Other NL suggestions: Bergen, Noordwijk, Laren. Especially the last, if you're looking for cosmopolitan outlook. Don't worry about lots of annoying right wingers in rural areas. There may be somewhat more proportionately[1], but they won't be annoying[2]. Minding one's own business is, it seems, more of a european[6] virtue than a US. [0] imx "verboten" means people don't do it; "defense de" means not if cops are watching; and "vietato" means sometimes even the cops do it. [1] where I live, the far right party is nominally a "farmers' party" (despite being controlled by urban industrialists). But just about the only way I'd know they have a lot of support here is by the number of placards (which used to feature the national flag but they've since figured it wasn't working for them) at election time. And I am an obvious foreigner[3], even without opening my mouth[5]. [2] bumper stickers are few and far between here, so jacked up pickups festooned with political flags are right out. [3] one of my favourite anecdotes is the guy who was telling me about all the problems with foreigners[4], only to pause his rant in the middle so he could go help a swarthy young mother in religious headcover get her baby carriage onto the train. [4] "I'm a foreigner too, remember" "Yes, but you're not one of those foreigners" [5] fwiw, I feel more at home here as a foreigner[6] than I did in the Old Country as a native-born citizen. [6] the local stance is less one of left/right identity politics and more one of (regardless of one's political views) sorrow for all those poor saps who have the horrendous misfortune to live in one of those neighbouring villages, 10-15km away.

greggarious 4y ago
>imx "verboten" means people don't do it; "defense de" means not if cops are watching; and "vietato" means sometimes even the cops do it. Ty this is useful we need a similar breakdown in English imho - I had severe issues w harassment because of the police/local officials sometimes treating things as “vietato” and other times much more severely depending on if your politics are well liked. (With my politics being I’d be in the NDP in Canada not… literally a communist or someone who’s gonna go full v for vendetta)