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Well I would ask the same/agree on both of these points. I don't think there are many communist experiments that worked. I also agree that government is not al

Well I would ask the same/agree on both of these points. I don't think there are many communist experiments that worked. I also agree that government is not always the solution, as it's just another actor and can be corrupted. But I'd argue that the original thing I was looking for -- more varied people in positions of wealth/influence/power would help solve this... But it may not be solved in a way that the small government crowd would like necessarily. Is the only reasonable state gridlock amongst equally powered proponents on either side? It's not always the case that the right answer is in the middle, of course, but on this issue it seems the passable solutions seem to be.

WalterBright 4y ago
> I don't think there are many communist experiments that worked. I regularly ask for any examples of working communism. To date, none have been offered. To be fair, sometimes someone will post one. But investigating it shows that it didn't actually work. For example, one long-running commune appeared to be successful, but what it was successful at was recruiting a constant stream of enthusiasts to join up, but who inevitably left after 2 years. It's almost as if communism and human nature are just incompatible. For some reason or other, humans are not bees and living in beehives doesn't work for humans.
- hardwaresofton 4y ago
  > It's almost as if communism and human nature are just incompatible. For some reason or other, humans are not bees and living in beehives doesn't work for humans. This, I completely agree with. Self interest is natural for humans, and is a force to be harnessed.
- mikrl 4y ago
  >humans are not bees and living in beehives doesn't work for humans BEES ARE COMMIES?? Good thing the pinko bastards are dying en masse, I was worried about that for a second.
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    A beehive is indeed the perfect communist society.

WalterBright 4y ago

> I don't think there are many communist experiments that worked. I regularly ask for any examples of working communism. To date, none have been offered. To be fair, sometimes someone will post one. But investigating it shows that it didn't actually work. For example, one long-running commune appeared to be successful, but what it was successful at was recruiting a constant stream of enthusiasts to join up, but who inevitably left after 2 years. It's almost as if communism and human nature are just incompatible. For some reason or other, humans are not bees and living in beehives doesn't work for humans.

hardwaresofton 4y ago
> It's almost as if communism and human nature are just incompatible. For some reason or other, humans are not bees and living in beehives doesn't work for humans. This, I completely agree with. Self interest is natural for humans, and is a force to be harnessed.
mikrl 4y ago
>humans are not bees and living in beehives doesn't work for humans BEES ARE COMMIES?? Good thing the pinko bastards are dying en masse, I was worried about that for a second.
- WalterBright 4y ago
  A beehive is indeed the perfect communist society.