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I’ve noticed that you’ve failed to take to heart the one main thing that I said can avoid this issue for you: an understanding that sex and gender are different
by TaylorAlexander 4y ago
I’ve noticed that you’ve failed to take to heart the one main thing that I said can avoid this issue for you: an understanding that sex and gender are different concepts.
What clothes you wear are part of a performance where the entirety of the performance represents your gender. But not your sex! Changing one thing doesn’t change your gender. But if you change the whole performance, that’s changing your gender. And I don’t really like these concepts of gender, but it’s more of a description of how society views a person. I never got called “ma'am” or “miss” until I started wearing dresses. I’m not really saying that wearing a dress makes you a woman, but I’m saying that wearing a dress and doing the other things makes other people read you as a woman.
Until you’re able to separate the two concepts of sex and gender in your mind you’re going to continue to run in to this issue.
When someone says “trans women are women, not men” they’re talking about gender, not sex. And gender as theorized by Judith Butler is something that we can easily change. Whether we can change sex is a different question and one I’m less qualified to discuss, but it’s irrelevant to the question of changing gender.
- bbbbbp 4y agoI disagree. If a man attempts to masquerade as a woman, and someone is led to believe that he is a woman, that doesn't make him a woman. It just means his pretence managed to fool someone into believing this. Behind this facade, he is still a man. Also I'm not convinced that a man being called "ma'am" or "miss" necessarily means that the speaker thinks he's a woman, especially these days. They might be saying it because that's how you're expected to politely address men in dresses these days. Or perhaps, they are being quietly sarcastic about the whole thing. In summary, I don't accept this Butlerian redefinition of woman, as it's incoherent with reality and relies on guessing what's going on in people's minds. The existing definition of adult human female is fine and there's no need to change it.
- TaylorAlexander 4y agoOkay. Well I think I’ve figure out why you keep getting called a bigot by trans people. You just can’t accept trans people period.