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Gosh, no - strongly recommending not doing this. (The lying part) Lying is one of the worst things you can do, it usually speaks to an issue with integrity, a
by jasmer 4y ago
Gosh, no - strongly recommending not doing this. (The lying part)
Lying is one of the worst things you can do, it usually speaks to an issue with integrity, a concern that comes before almost all of them even intelligence, education, aptitude, skills.
Learn the skill of polite deferral, of saying things without saying them, diverting or embellishing a bit - and then only if it's an issue not relevant to the job.
If someone in an interview asks you your 'political orientation' (which obviously they shouldn't do and it would raise a big red flag anyhow - but just as an example) you do not have to be candid, but don't lie. You can say "I have a variety of opinions, I try to keep an open mind" - so long as you are comfortable with it and it's true. You have not lied, but not fully answered the question because it's none of their business.
I also think the OP here has misinterpreted 'transparency and candor'.
Engineers who 'over share' are a bit annoying but then again, you don't have to read their posts - but this is not the issue.
The 'issue' here is the absolutely truthful information that is 'just too much' for an interview setting.
Everyone needs to be honest and candid but not transparent like you're talking to the IRS or your accountant.
Suppose they ask you why you might want to work at the company, and you don't really feel hugely inspired, well, instead of saying literally that, you can find at least something interesting about the situation and allude to it. There's something interesting about every situation. And of course, if it's truly a bad situation just say that politely and assume you won't be working there.
It's ok to ask 'Elephant in the Room' questions especially if they are asked politely, if they can't handle that you don't want to work there.
It's ok to be turned away for something arbitrary or mundane (or any other reason) there will be other opportunities.
Getting turned down can make you very cynical and brings out our worst, even conspiratorial tendencies so try to stay grounded and keep your head on straight, don't be sucked into the vortex of weirdness and 'ultra competitive civility' of getting job shenanigans, it's not real, it's a big of a game, recognise it a such.
Kind of like telling people to 'don't be nervous' on a date, what I'm about to write is super glib but I think it's true: stay true to your basic values and identity and I think it will be easier to be more relaxed and authentic in interviews. The 'game' will pull you towards negative behaviours I have found it's a lot easier not to do them if you literally just decide that you are not going to do so for reasons of morality or values or whatever.
- oorza 4y ago> And of course, if it's truly a bad situation just say that politely and assume you won't be working there Or "this situation sucks, that's why I'm excited. I want to lead the charge out of the darkness and into the light" or some such self-aggrandizing metaphor. Assuming, of course, you are willing to take a job whose primary function is fixing a broken team.
- jacquesm 4y agoCompanies lie to their prospective employees all the time. About how much runway they have, about the work that you'll be doing, about what it is like to work there.
- nyanpasu64 4y agoI wish companies lying to users (in terms of service), shareholders, public announcements, employee announcements were all illegal and criminally prosecuted.
- worik 4y agoIt is not because it is morally wrong that you should not lie. It is because it is very bad for you. Lies beget lies and no one trusts a liar. It is morally wrong to lie. You should not do it The fact that they do it, when they face different incentives, is not a reason for you to
- jacquesm 4y agoYou are generalizing a lot. I outlined a very specific situation: A company inquires into aspects of your life that are none of their business. In that particular situation as far as I'm concerned - and not as far as you are concerned - you are free to lie. Because the alternative is going to end with you not getting the job, no matter how qualified you are.
- kortilla 4y agoLying about being arrested is a quick way to get fired when the background check comes through. Your antisocial suggestion has now escalated from something you could have preemptively explained into termination of employment. Nicely done.