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This is a live-to-work attitude. Have some other hobbies and goals, and a year of unemployment will be neither lonely nor depressing. Personally I've gone farth

This is a live-to-work attitude. Have some other hobbies and goals, and a year of unemployment will be neither lonely nor depressing. Personally I've gone farther in the work-to-live direction, with an easygoing, "boring" (still fulfilling enough to see some javascript doodad come to life, but not world changing) WFH job I perform well in that supports my homesteading and other hobbies.

fullstackchris 4y ago
The author anyway had this mentality: > If you’re like me, work is the primary shaper of your life. Work gives your life rhythm. It is the gravitational center around which the other activities in your life revolve.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  I think this happens to a lot of people. Especially for people who really enjoy the work they do, rather than see it as a necessary evil to put a roof over their head.
fxtentacle 4y ago
I guess that depends on how much you enjoy your side projects. Over the Christmas holidays, I rooted the vacuum robot, built a workstation from parts, worked on a new compression algorithm, and enhanced my papwrcraft design software... Because that's what I enjoy doing in my free time.
- Aloha 4y ago
  I work a job to pay for my side projects. If I could just work on those, taking care of the house, etc, and still make a living, I'd be very happy.
- jimmaswell 4y ago
  I've gotten back into enjoying tech projects again too. I just try to make sure my life isn't revolving around employment.
Damogran6 4y ago
This late in my career, I've found 5 of my 7 SIEMs are gone, and the last one is on life support. The one I'm managing now will not be around by the time I retire. You start to see the patterns and futility and cycles and think 'maybe my career is not making things better, it's keeping the mortgage paid?' That and while I'm I can get rehired past 50...do I really want to do that dance again?
- rwmj 4y ago
  SIEM?
  - sciurus 4y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_information_and_event_management https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_information_and_eve...
- miramba 4y ago
  Same here, past 50 and while my job doesn’t fulfill me, I can do it with little effort and it pays the bills. I’m too tired and lazy to try something new, rather look for fulfillment in my spare time. Actually, all my previous experiences say that every job sucks, no matter how promising it looked like at the start.
phpisthebest 4y ago
Or its "if you enjoy what you do you will never work" attidude I have met soo many sysadmins and devs that absolutely hate computers, hate programming, hate everything about IT. They were in some career fair at some point in high school and simply picked that because it had high pay with out the 6 or 8 years being a Doctor or lawyer took, and it seemed easier than Electrical Engineering or something. Me, I have always loved programming and computers. They are both my work and my hobby
- sangnoir 4y ago
  > I have met soo many sysadmins and devs that absolutely hate computers, hate programming, hate everything about IT > Me, I have always loved programming and computers. They are both my work and my hobby I think you're being too harsh, and clearly, you've never experienced burnout, which will make you loathe programming as work and as a hobby. Unless you are self employed, it is possible to hate your programming job while enjoying coding at home, without being in it for the money. "If you enjoy what you do you will never work" is such bs, and leads to exploitation (see AAA games' low pay and crunching, or underpaid airline pilots)
  - doubled112 4y ago
    This is incredibly true for me. I like problems, but mostly the technical ones. Starting programming young, loved computers and networking. Became a sysadmin. Turns out that at work, the problems are often different to what I want to be solving. Approvals and process can be a real downer. Some problems are people problems and not technical problems at all. Waiting on somebody else to complete their part while you wait sucks. These are the things that burn me out. At home, I am the approval process. Maintenance is whenever I think is reasonable. Don't like a service/app, throw it away. Found a new project, tinker away. Something is down, I'll get around to it. Completely different.
- Siddarth1977 4y ago
  Two other factors to consider: 1) people grow and change and 2) working a job is very different than doing "the same" activity as a hobby. I enjoy gardening and cooking as hobbies, but I don't want to work a job as a landscaper or line chef. After 20+ years of coding, I absolutely hate it despite having started out loving it, but I recognize that my cushy job is less hours for more pay than I could get doing anything else.

fullstackchris 4y ago

The author anyway had this mentality: > If you’re like me, work is the primary shaper of your life. Work gives your life rhythm. It is the gravitational center around which the other activities in your life revolve.

rootusrootus 4y ago
I think this happens to a lot of people. Especially for people who really enjoy the work they do, rather than see it as a necessary evil to put a roof over their head.

fxtentacle 4y ago

I guess that depends on how much you enjoy your side projects. Over the Christmas holidays, I rooted the vacuum robot, built a workstation from parts, worked on a new compression algorithm, and enhanced my papwrcraft design software... Because that's what I enjoy doing in my free time.

Aloha 4y ago
I work a job to pay for my side projects. If I could just work on those, taking care of the house, etc, and still make a living, I'd be very happy.
jimmaswell 4y ago
I've gotten back into enjoying tech projects again too. I just try to make sure my life isn't revolving around employment.

Damogran6 4y ago

This late in my career, I've found 5 of my 7 SIEMs are gone, and the last one is on life support. The one I'm managing now will not be around by the time I retire. You start to see the patterns and futility and cycles and think 'maybe my career is not making things better, it's keeping the mortgage paid?' That and while I'm I can get rehired past 50...do I really want to do that dance again?

rwmj 4y ago
SIEM?
- sciurus 4y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_information_and_event_management https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_information_and_eve...
miramba 4y ago
Same here, past 50 and while my job doesn’t fulfill me, I can do it with little effort and it pays the bills. I’m too tired and lazy to try something new, rather look for fulfillment in my spare time. Actually, all my previous experiences say that every job sucks, no matter how promising it looked like at the start.

phpisthebest 4y ago

Or its "if you enjoy what you do you will never work" attidude I have met soo many sysadmins and devs that absolutely hate computers, hate programming, hate everything about IT. They were in some career fair at some point in high school and simply picked that because it had high pay with out the 6 or 8 years being a Doctor or lawyer took, and it seemed easier than Electrical Engineering or something. Me, I have always loved programming and computers. They are both my work and my hobby

sangnoir 4y ago
> I have met soo many sysadmins and devs that absolutely hate computers, hate programming, hate everything about IT > Me, I have always loved programming and computers. They are both my work and my hobby I think you're being too harsh, and clearly, you've never experienced burnout, which will make you loathe programming as work and as a hobby. Unless you are self employed, it is possible to hate your programming job while enjoying coding at home, without being in it for the money. "If you enjoy what you do you will never work" is such bs, and leads to exploitation (see AAA games' low pay and crunching, or underpaid airline pilots)
- doubled112 4y ago
  This is incredibly true for me. I like problems, but mostly the technical ones. Starting programming young, loved computers and networking. Became a sysadmin. Turns out that at work, the problems are often different to what I want to be solving. Approvals and process can be a real downer. Some problems are people problems and not technical problems at all. Waiting on somebody else to complete their part while you wait sucks. These are the things that burn me out. At home, I am the approval process. Maintenance is whenever I think is reasonable. Don't like a service/app, throw it away. Found a new project, tinker away. Something is down, I'll get around to it. Completely different.
Siddarth1977 4y ago
Two other factors to consider: 1) people grow and change and 2) working a job is very different than doing "the same" activity as a hobby. I enjoy gardening and cooking as hobbies, but I don't want to work a job as a landscaper or line chef. After 20+ years of coding, I absolutely hate it despite having started out loving it, but I recognize that my cushy job is less hours for more pay than I could get doing anything else.