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It's such a shame that Apple feels the need to cripple their devices to protect their revenue. Mac Studio would be a super powerful machine, allowing me to run

It's such a shame that Apple feels the need to cripple their devices to protect their revenue. Mac Studio would be a super powerful machine, allowing me to run all my CI and testing on my local Mac, but the 2 VM limit prevents that. So for now I'm stuck with the Intel Mac mini, which doesn't have this stupid limit. I bet the machines they use for Xcode cloud don't have this dumb limit.

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robertoandred 4y ago
How many versions of macOS do you need for simultaneous CI and testing?
- amluto 4y ago
  If the testing is automated? As many as fit in memory.
- newaccount74 4y ago
  For testing I usually have 4 VMs running the latest version of macOS (spread scross 2 Macs), but they are currently broken after upgrading to the latest version of macOS and Xcode. I also have a few more VMs running legacy versions of macOS for building stuff that needs to be built on older versions of macOS, but I only run them on demand. And I use a VM for collaboration (multiple people can code together and share a screen remotely on a designated VM that doesn't have any personal stuff on it). At most I probably had 6 or 7 VMs running on the Mac mini simultaneously, but if I bought a Mac Studio I'd really want to be able to run more of them. I don't want to have to quit VMs that I'm not currently using because suspend/resume always takes ages and I'm never sure if networks drives are still mounted afterwards.
fifafu 4y ago
the macOS license allows only two virtual instances, regardless of CPU architecture ;-(
- wkat4242 4y ago
  That's not really relevant though if it is technically possible.. They're not going to sue you for it. If they cared they'd have gone after the hackintosh community a long time ago.
  - fifafu 4y ago
    unfortunately it's very relevant if you want to use it for CI in any corporate environment. It's a really annoying limitation.
smm11 4y ago
At least in 2014 or so iCloud was Dell/Oracle.
BonoboIO 4y ago
How is this limit enforced? Couldn’t you do it?
- saagarjha 4y ago
  The Virtualization framework has a check inside of it.
  - BonoboIO 4y ago
    Can somebody please jailbreak this.

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robertoandred 4y ago

How many versions of macOS do you need for simultaneous CI and testing?

amluto 4y ago
If the testing is automated? As many as fit in memory.
newaccount74 4y ago
For testing I usually have 4 VMs running the latest version of macOS (spread scross 2 Macs), but they are currently broken after upgrading to the latest version of macOS and Xcode. I also have a few more VMs running legacy versions of macOS for building stuff that needs to be built on older versions of macOS, but I only run them on demand. And I use a VM for collaboration (multiple people can code together and share a screen remotely on a designated VM that doesn't have any personal stuff on it). At most I probably had 6 or 7 VMs running on the Mac mini simultaneously, but if I bought a Mac Studio I'd really want to be able to run more of them. I don't want to have to quit VMs that I'm not currently using because suspend/resume always takes ages and I'm never sure if networks drives are still mounted afterwards.

fifafu 4y ago

the macOS license allows only two virtual instances, regardless of CPU architecture ;-(

wkat4242 4y ago
That's not really relevant though if it is technically possible.. They're not going to sue you for it. If they cared they'd have gone after the hackintosh community a long time ago.
- fifafu 4y ago
  unfortunately it's very relevant if you want to use it for CI in any corporate environment. It's a really annoying limitation.

smm11 4y ago

At least in 2014 or so iCloud was Dell/Oracle.

BonoboIO 4y ago

How is this limit enforced? Couldn’t you do it?

saagarjha 4y ago
The Virtualization framework has a check inside of it.
- BonoboIO 4y ago
  Can somebody please jailbreak this.