> Indeed it's rather remarkable how many of these figures like Vannevar Bush, Alan Kay, Douglas Engelbart, etc., never actually shipped much. Your beliefs abou

> Indeed it's rather remarkable how many of these figures like Vannevar Bush, Alan Kay, Douglas Engelbart, etc., never actually shipped much. Your beliefs about what a researcher ought to "ship" and what researchers are actually responsible for delivering are definitely at odds. > But they are fundamentally salesmen Even speaking colloquially that statement represents a major misunderstanding of what a researcher (or a salesman?) is responsible for.