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No, I'm quite happy with the tone and message of the article thank you. Just because you have not experienced the many instances of compromised machines thanks

No, I'm quite happy with the tone and message of the article thank you. Just because you have not experienced the many instances of compromised machines thanks to this "feature" (and feel free to find the HN thread where this article is discussed also) does not mean the feature is not dangerous. I assume you don't have a problem with popups not being heavily restricted and opt-in now. I have no idea why you seem to have a personal problem with it but, alas, it's personal. If you don't want to use them that is up to you, I don't care. Feel free to make a pull request.

toastal 4y ago
It's not a personal problem--you're making that up; the purpose of Push is getting native app features in your web app which is good for consumers--especially those on less popular operating systems as almost all have some form of modern web browser (and some, like FxOS and its successor KaiOs, fully banking on the web as competent, common-denominator application platform). Opt in is perfect too because it's not hard to clearly communicate what notifications will do and making it the result of a consensual user action and not page load (if page-load-pop-up is still the case, that sucks though). Not every user needs to be coddled. Not every use of Push is malicious. Folks build real apps on the web. You didn't even bother to explain how getting real-time chat notifications isn't a real-world demand. And running through the comments are just as many folks saying PWAs are a real need to them and that this rhetoric is alarmist.
- lloydatkinson 4y ago
  Feel free to send a pull request.
  - toastal 4y ago
    When your comments are full of rebuttals to "there's no use case" and you refuse to acknowledge them, that revision is on you.
    - lloydatkinson 4y ago
      No thanks, your personal problem is your problem. Feel free to send a pull request. Oh that's right, it's not open source :)

toastal 4y ago

It's not a personal problem--you're making that up; the purpose of Push is getting native app features in your web app which is good for consumers--especially those on less popular operating systems as almost all have some form of modern web browser (and some, like FxOS and its successor KaiOs, fully banking on the web as competent, common-denominator application platform). Opt in is perfect too because it's not hard to clearly communicate what notifications will do and making it the result of a consensual user action and not page load (if page-load-pop-up is still the case, that sucks though). Not every user needs to be coddled. Not every use of Push is malicious. Folks build real apps on the web. You didn't even bother to explain how getting real-time chat notifications isn't a real-world demand. And running through the comments are just as many folks saying PWAs are a real need to them and that this rhetoric is alarmist.

lloydatkinson 4y ago
Feel free to send a pull request.
- toastal 4y ago
  When your comments are full of rebuttals to "there's no use case" and you refuse to acknowledge them, that revision is on you.
  - lloydatkinson 4y ago
    No thanks, your personal problem is your problem. Feel free to send a pull request. Oh that's right, it's not open source :)