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“You have to respect the interests of other people, care for the environment and take responsibility for your own actions.” My experience is the (few) individu

“You have to respect the interests of other people, care for the environment and take responsibility for your own actions.” My experience is the (few) individuals that struggle with this (leaving litter, leaving gates open, trampling crops, letting dogs into animal pastures, interfering with other peoples recreation) really do spoil it for everyone and irreparably damages relations with landowners

matsemann 4y ago
It's often easy to avoid the worst offenders, though. Place a few trash bins close to popular camping spots, and then more people will clean after themselves. Have a spring in the gate so it always closes itself. Make a marked path that is easy to follow that avoids crops. Etc. etc. Most people behave if you make it the most convenient thing.
nmstoker 4y ago
Out of interest, where are you commenting on? I agree it's true there's always a risk of these "tragedy of the commons" style issues with bad individuals, but this kind of access is a fairly long established tradition in Scotland and it seems to work reasonably well (although other commenters have mentioned a few exceptions where by-laws were put in place for trouble spots, but thankfully those are targeted in location and time of year)
- alistairSH 4y ago
  Seems there’s a bit of this happening in the most remote northern section of Scotland (where the NC500 route was established). I’m sure some of the complaints are just NIMBYs who don’t want any change at all, but given the state of some of my local parks (DC suburbs, USA - trash heaps and poo piles all over in 2020/2021), I’m not surprised careless tourists are mucking up the Highlands. https://gailantheabrown.com/2021/08/12/poo-potholes-and-park-ups-why-highlanders-are-tired-of-scotlands-north-coast-500-route/ https://gailantheabrown.com/2021/08/12/poo-potholes-and-park...

matsemann 4y ago

It's often easy to avoid the worst offenders, though. Place a few trash bins close to popular camping spots, and then more people will clean after themselves. Have a spring in the gate so it always closes itself. Make a marked path that is easy to follow that avoids crops. Etc. etc. Most people behave if you make it the most convenient thing.

nmstoker 4y ago

Out of interest, where are you commenting on? I agree it's true there's always a risk of these "tragedy of the commons" style issues with bad individuals, but this kind of access is a fairly long established tradition in Scotland and it seems to work reasonably well (although other commenters have mentioned a few exceptions where by-laws were put in place for trouble spots, but thankfully those are targeted in location and time of year)

alistairSH 4y ago
Seems there’s a bit of this happening in the most remote northern section of Scotland (where the NC500 route was established). I’m sure some of the complaints are just NIMBYs who don’t want any change at all, but given the state of some of my local parks (DC suburbs, USA - trash heaps and poo piles all over in 2020/2021), I’m not surprised careless tourists are mucking up the Highlands. https://gailantheabrown.com/2021/08/12/poo-potholes-and-park-ups-why-highlanders-are-tired-of-scotlands-north-coast-500-route/ https://gailantheabrown.com/2021/08/12/poo-potholes-and-park...