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Would you support this if it was an Afro American? Somebody has to do something about climate change. Our governments aren’t doing shit, if you got a better id

Would you support this if it was an Afro American? Somebody has to do something about climate change. Our governments aren’t doing shit, if you got a better idea please go ahead.

tsimionescu 4y ago
Flailing wildly with dangerous ideas is much much more likely to hurt than it is to help.
- tomjen3 4y ago
  Only if we do it on a truely massive scale, and Global warming is known to be dangerous. This might be. The difference should be obvious.
  - tsimionescu 4y ago
    If we don't do it on a massive scale, it won't help with global warming. Also, the risks of global warming are somewhat understood. The risks of this are not - it could help, or it could be much worse than even global warming. Like in medicine, the principle has to be First, do no harm. The current approach seems to be akin to coming up with a new substance that you think cures diabetes based only on molecular chemistry, and sneaking it into a diabetic's food - "diabetes is known to be dangerous. This substance might be".
    - tomjen3 4y ago
      When you test new medicine you do that in small scale trials, then you find out if it is effective and then scale it up. How would you suggest this approach is tested without testing it on a small scale?
      - tsimionescu 4y ago
        Releasing stuff into the atmosphere is not small-scale testing. Medicine is also tested in animal models before being tested in humans - so I would expect this to be tested in a lab first; and then I would expect people to first design a new kind of experiment that would allow us to study the effects of this type of climate modification before actually deploying it into the atmosphere. I don't think we even have the experimental framework in place, so deploying the actual pollutants first is just crazy. Even if they were really going for some deployment of small amounts of gas as an experiment, I would expect them to actually send some kind of instruments along with the gas as well.
jaggs 4y ago
A MUCH better idea - which will actually change the situation rather than just mask it like this one - is to work towards significantly reducing our emissions. A second idea is to try and reduce our unconstrained consumption. A third idea is to ramp up naturally regenerative practices which mitigate the worst of the current problems. There's no shortage of ideas, many of which are being done right now.
- tomjen3 4y ago
  Unless you have a good way to convince China to go in on reducing their greenhouse gasses, those solutions are non-starters.

Would you support this if it was an Afro American? Somebody has to do something about climate change. Our governments aren’t doing shit, if you got a better idea please go ahead.

tsimionescu 4y ago

Flailing wildly with dangerous ideas is much much more likely to hurt than it is to help.

tomjen3 4y ago
Only if we do it on a truely massive scale, and Global warming is known to be dangerous. This might be. The difference should be obvious.
- tsimionescu 4y ago
  If we don't do it on a massive scale, it won't help with global warming. Also, the risks of global warming are somewhat understood. The risks of this are not - it could help, or it could be much worse than even global warming. Like in medicine, the principle has to be First, do no harm. The current approach seems to be akin to coming up with a new substance that you think cures diabetes based only on molecular chemistry, and sneaking it into a diabetic's food - "diabetes is known to be dangerous. This substance might be".
  - tomjen3 4y ago
    When you test new medicine you do that in small scale trials, then you find out if it is effective and then scale it up. How would you suggest this approach is tested without testing it on a small scale?
    - tsimionescu 4y ago
      Releasing stuff into the atmosphere is not small-scale testing. Medicine is also tested in animal models before being tested in humans - so I would expect this to be tested in a lab first; and then I would expect people to first design a new kind of experiment that would allow us to study the effects of this type of climate modification before actually deploying it into the atmosphere. I don't think we even have the experimental framework in place, so deploying the actual pollutants first is just crazy. Even if they were really going for some deployment of small amounts of gas as an experiment, I would expect them to actually send some kind of instruments along with the gas as well.

jaggs 4y ago

A MUCH better idea - which will actually change the situation rather than just mask it like this one - is to work towards significantly reducing our emissions. A second idea is to try and reduce our unconstrained consumption. A third idea is to ramp up naturally regenerative practices which mitigate the worst of the current problems. There's no shortage of ideas, many of which are being done right now.

tomjen3 4y ago
Unless you have a good way to convince China to go in on reducing their greenhouse gasses, those solutions are non-starters.