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> No I trust experts in the field who by and large say CSAM is WAY WAY WAY down on the platform since Elon took over Which experts and how is this being measur
by danShumway 4y ago
> No I trust experts in the field who by and large say CSAM is WAY WAY WAY down on the platform since Elon took over
Which experts and how is this being measured? Because I can't find sources that confirm that claim: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2022/11/18/elon-musk-twitter-csam-lawsuit/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2022/11/18/elon...
Do you have ANY actual numbers to back that up, at all? Let alone numbers measured by independent experts and not just filtered through Twitter PR?
> I care about the amount of content, not the number of moderators.
I don't know how to get across to you that human moderation requires humans.
The act of moderation requires a human being to sit down, look at a piece of content, and decide if it's in violation of a policy. Then that process is repeated over and over again for the duration of the workday. Having bodies in the chairs to look at the content is not optional.
Particularly not where CSAM is concerned, which is an area where moderator turnover is astronomical because moderating CSAM is effectively the equivalent of feeding your brain poison every day until you have a breakdown and have to go to therapy. It is a nasty, horrible job and there really isn't a way around the fact that it requires a lot of moderators working in rotations. There's a limit to how often someone can be shown horrifying images in a workweek before they decide that they would rather be doing anything at all other than continuing to show up at work.
That part of the moderation job isn't glamorous, and it usually happens behind the scenes with contractors. It's an awful part of the tech industry that doesn't get much attention because it's unpleasant to talk about and unpleasant to acknowledge how much we rely on underpaid contractors ruining their own lives to keep our platforms safe. But the gist is that an engineer doing "hardcore programming" is not a substitute for having thousands and thousands of moderators actually reviewing images.
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> Just look at the tweets from Ella Irwin
That Elon's current head of safety is praising him isn't surprising -- one thing we've all learned from the way he's run Twitter is that you don't get to work for Elon at all unless you're pretty proactive about praising him.
But there have been zero independent measurements that confirm these claims, and actual experts in the field (read, not just a current employee and a couple fan/activist accounts) are concerned about the direction the platform is headed and about the lack of investment in moderation teams.
But since those experts are talking to journalists and not just posting to Twitter, maybe it doesn't matter what they think /s.