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IQ in children is a lot more reflective of environment / happenstance than IQ in adults. This statistical analysis seems to be looking at IQ in children.

by ummonk 4y ago

largepeepee 4y ago
It's also a self-reinforcing cycle. Children that told they are smart from tests tend to have higher confidence and that has positive effects during a time where most children are unsure about themselves and their role in their world. Confidence also has secondary effects in other aspects of life from dating to seeking out quality mentors and opportunities.
- blitzar 4y ago
  > Children that told they are smart from tests tend to have higher confidence ... Confidence also has secondary effects in other aspects of life from dating My experience, annecdata at best - kids who do good in tests have 0 confidence when it comes to dating. If there is a correlation there it is negative, at absolute best 0.
  - em-bee 4y ago
    i would be very hesitant to even make a correlation here. the problem with dating is that it creates an environment that is completely isolated from every other activity. there is no place where you can learn about dating (ignoring movies). the lack of confidence from dating comes from a lack of opportunity to learn how to date. dating is being treated like such a special activity that require a lot of cultural knowledge. the very fact that a date can go bad and that this has a strong influence on the relationship is a problem. the conclusion for me is that dating itself is the wrong approach to find a partner. it would be better to pick your partner from among your friends, and then spending time with that friend is more easy and more natural. and if a "date" goes bad, it has less of an aftereffect, because not everything is perfect among friends
jozvolskyef 4y ago
I remember reading about this idea over a decade ago, and it comes to mind whenever I observe that I am becoming more like my father, despite living in a different country and culture, and less like other people who had an impact on me. The effects of education slowly give way to genetics in the absence of continued training.
ImaCake 4y ago
>IQ in children is a lot more reflective of environment / happenstance Yes, this study goes about measuring it instead of just shrugging their shoulders like your statement is. It is correlating three variables (predictors) against IQ (the outcome variable). That is, they find that genetics, schooling, and SES all independently influence a child's IQ test score. But that school does not make the gap caused by genetics or SES better or worse.

IQ in children is a lot more reflective of environment / happenstance than IQ in adults. This statistical analysis seems to be looking at IQ in children.

by ummonk 4y ago

IQ in children is a lot more reflective of environment / happenstance than IQ in adults. This statistical analysis seems to be looking at IQ in children.

largepeepee 4y ago

It's also a self-reinforcing cycle. Children that told they are smart from tests tend to have higher confidence and that has positive effects during a time where most children are unsure about themselves and their role in their world. Confidence also has secondary effects in other aspects of life from dating to seeking out quality mentors and opportunities.

blitzar 4y ago
> Children that told they are smart from tests tend to have higher confidence ... Confidence also has secondary effects in other aspects of life from dating My experience, annecdata at best - kids who do good in tests have 0 confidence when it comes to dating. If there is a correlation there it is negative, at absolute best 0.
- em-bee 4y ago
  i would be very hesitant to even make a correlation here. the problem with dating is that it creates an environment that is completely isolated from every other activity. there is no place where you can learn about dating (ignoring movies). the lack of confidence from dating comes from a lack of opportunity to learn how to date. dating is being treated like such a special activity that require a lot of cultural knowledge. the very fact that a date can go bad and that this has a strong influence on the relationship is a problem. the conclusion for me is that dating itself is the wrong approach to find a partner. it would be better to pick your partner from among your friends, and then spending time with that friend is more easy and more natural. and if a "date" goes bad, it has less of an aftereffect, because not everything is perfect among friends

jozvolskyef 4y ago

I remember reading about this idea over a decade ago, and it comes to mind whenever I observe that I am becoming more like my father, despite living in a different country and culture, and less like other people who had an impact on me. The effects of education slowly give way to genetics in the absence of continued training.

ImaCake 4y ago

>IQ in children is a lot more reflective of environment / happenstance Yes, this study goes about measuring it instead of just shrugging their shoulders like your statement is. It is correlating three variables (predictors) against IQ (the outcome variable). That is, they find that genetics, schooling, and SES all independently influence a child's IQ test score. But that school does not make the gap caused by genetics or SES better or worse.