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I find the alarmism in articles like this hilarious. We all here own cars spitting CO2 into the atmosphere like no tomorrow, directly affecting the climate in

by XorNot 4y ago

I find the alarmism in articles like this hilarious. We all here own cars spitting CO2 into the atmosphere like no tomorrow, directly affecting the climate in serious ways. Someone picks a gas to release to try and reverse this, and everyone panics and wants regulations, fines and jailtime? LOL.

tomtomistaken 4y ago
Cars? One coal power plant is emitting million times as much (as 1 car).
- defrost 4y ago
  In Australia a 500 megawatt black coal power plant emits the C02 amount of just under 700K average family cars whereas a brown coal power plant emits a little over 900K av. family cars. ( Not SUVs | 'trucks' etc ) Mind you, a 500 MW plant can service ~350K multi car homes; so the C02 output of that plant is within the ballpark (ie. less than a x10 factor) of the C02 output from the cars in the homes serviced by the plant. ie. They're each as much of an issue as the other and change would be good here.
  - tomtomistaken 4y ago
    In Australia? 500 MW? You just picked smallest, right? These are single entities blowing out crazy amounts of CO2. In my eyes, we should start replacing and shutting them down asap.
    - defrost 4y ago
      I'm in Australia and have those figures handy. I picked a size that delivers approx the order of 1 million passenger cars worth of C02. I also wanted to contrast black V. brown coal and to offer a comparison to a large number of cars (allowing people to think of the emissions coming from a city of a few million homes and vehicles (sans industry, which is another facet again)). If you'd like to generate a table for other sizes then by all means go ahead. FWiW South Australia (the entire state) recently spent an entire contiguos week using only renewable energy (and exporting via grid to other states an excess), and Western Australia has a significant percentage of renewable energy production (total production higher than SA) as a fully independent grid | state, but still some need for base load production). Other Aus. states have larger populations and demands and still have a way to go.
      - tomtomistaken 4y ago
        I have this data handy, too. Wikipedia[1] lists only 3 of 19 coal fired power plants below 500 MW, so that’s not representative. My point was that these entities blow out the same amount of CO2 as millions of cars. Residential electricity use in Australia is below 1/3[2]. I’m not sure if residents and their cars are the first to blame. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal-fired_power_stations_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal-fired_power_stati... [2]https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Electricity-consumption-by-different-sectors-in-Australia_fig2_321207496 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Electricity-consumption-...
- TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y ago
  Volcanoes: "Hold my beer!" https://www.usgs.gov/programs/VHP/volcanoes-can-affect-climate https://www.usgs.gov/programs/VHP/volcanoes-can-affect-clima...
hef19898 4y ago
Spreading sulfur in the atmosphere does nothing against CO2, the goal, even stated by make sunsets themselves, is to reflect sunlight.

by XorNot 4y ago

tomtomistaken 4y ago

Cars? One coal power plant is emitting million times as much (as 1 car).

defrost 4y ago
In Australia a 500 megawatt black coal power plant emits the C02 amount of just under 700K average family cars whereas a brown coal power plant emits a little over 900K av. family cars. ( Not SUVs | 'trucks' etc ) Mind you, a 500 MW plant can service ~350K multi car homes; so the C02 output of that plant is within the ballpark (ie. less than a x10 factor) of the C02 output from the cars in the homes serviced by the plant. ie. They're each as much of an issue as the other and change would be good here.
- tomtomistaken 4y ago
  In Australia? 500 MW? You just picked smallest, right? These are single entities blowing out crazy amounts of CO2. In my eyes, we should start replacing and shutting them down asap.
  - defrost 4y ago
    I'm in Australia and have those figures handy. I picked a size that delivers approx the order of 1 million passenger cars worth of C02. I also wanted to contrast black V. brown coal and to offer a comparison to a large number of cars (allowing people to think of the emissions coming from a city of a few million homes and vehicles (sans industry, which is another facet again)). If you'd like to generate a table for other sizes then by all means go ahead. FWiW South Australia (the entire state) recently spent an entire contiguos week using only renewable energy (and exporting via grid to other states an excess), and Western Australia has a significant percentage of renewable energy production (total production higher than SA) as a fully independent grid | state, but still some need for base load production). Other Aus. states have larger populations and demands and still have a way to go.
    - tomtomistaken 4y ago
      I have this data handy, too. Wikipedia[1] lists only 3 of 19 coal fired power plants below 500 MW, so that’s not representative. My point was that these entities blow out the same amount of CO2 as millions of cars. Residential electricity use in Australia is below 1/3[2]. I’m not sure if residents and their cars are the first to blame. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal-fired_power_stations_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal-fired_power_stati... [2]https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Electricity-consumption-by-different-sectors-in-Australia_fig2_321207496 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Electricity-consumption-...
TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y ago
Volcanoes: "Hold my beer!" https://www.usgs.gov/programs/VHP/volcanoes-can-affect-climate https://www.usgs.gov/programs/VHP/volcanoes-can-affect-clima...

hef19898 4y ago

Spreading sulfur in the atmosphere does nothing against CO2, the goal, even stated by make sunsets themselves, is to reflect sunlight.