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They’re probably significantly influencing other people, politicians with massive, unmatchable donations and behind the doors conversations. You just don’t know

by eecc 4y ago

logifail 4y ago
Could it be that some parts of the mainstream media sees Musk as a partial replacement for Trump, a great source of over-done outrage stories, clicks and ads?
- eecc 4y ago
  Pretty much. He’s been that kind of “magnate does strange things” since long, but since he publicly joined the political conversation, he hasn’t done anything to undo that framing. Look, some of his points have some standing but the points have to be more nuanced. I’m also annoyed by PoCo and the power-grab by US identity-identitarian Calvinists, painting anyone that does not defer to their moral authority as fascist monsters. I’m also irritated by the “present your pronouns” because you’re “either an ally or part of the problem.” But indeed, for every time you snap back, there’s a real trans person who’s suffering an identity crisis, victimized and exploited by all sides of the polarized flame-fest that’s smashing any chance for a reasonable debate. I don’t know if Musk is a true reactionary bumpkin of just burnt out, and out of touch. He should really get a public relations specialist to fix his public persona and teach him how to stay out of rhetorical minefields.
- jupp0r 4y ago
  Is your hypothesis that there are lots of other CEOs out there spreading crackpot conspiracy theories that are doing so unnoticed by the general public because "mainstream media" has unfairly singled out Elon Musk?
  - eecc 4y ago
    A few, just off the top of my head: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Döpfner https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Döpfner Who apparently texted Musk during the Twitter transaction. He’s a media magnate too eh! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barre_Seid https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barre_Seid You should thank this respectable man for the Roe repeal. Good luck avoiding their products.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Could it be that some parts of the mainstream media sees Musk as a partial replacement for Trump, a great source of over-done outrage stories, clicks and ads? I think a bigger factor is that some parts of social media sees Musk as a partial replacement for Trump. And, particularly, that the part of social media to which Trump was most valuable for several years (before he was finally booted), and which has failed to draw Trump back recently despite very visible efforts, and which Musk now owns, sees him that way.

They’re probably significantly influencing other people, politicians with massive, unmatchable donations and behind the doors conversations. You just don’t know

by eecc 4y ago

They’re probably significantly influencing other people, politicians with massive, unmatchable donations and behind the doors conversations. You just don’t know

logifail 4y ago

Could it be that some parts of the mainstream media sees Musk as a partial replacement for Trump, a great source of over-done outrage stories, clicks and ads?

eecc 4y ago
Pretty much. He’s been that kind of “magnate does strange things” since long, but since he publicly joined the political conversation, he hasn’t done anything to undo that framing. Look, some of his points have some standing but the points have to be more nuanced. I’m also annoyed by PoCo and the power-grab by US identity-identitarian Calvinists, painting anyone that does not defer to their moral authority as fascist monsters. I’m also irritated by the “present your pronouns” because you’re “either an ally or part of the problem.” But indeed, for every time you snap back, there’s a real trans person who’s suffering an identity crisis, victimized and exploited by all sides of the polarized flame-fest that’s smashing any chance for a reasonable debate. I don’t know if Musk is a true reactionary bumpkin of just burnt out, and out of touch. He should really get a public relations specialist to fix his public persona and teach him how to stay out of rhetorical minefields.
jupp0r 4y ago
Is your hypothesis that there are lots of other CEOs out there spreading crackpot conspiracy theories that are doing so unnoticed by the general public because "mainstream media" has unfairly singled out Elon Musk?
- eecc 4y ago
  A few, just off the top of my head: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Döpfner https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Döpfner Who apparently texted Musk during the Twitter transaction. He’s a media magnate too eh! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barre_Seid https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barre_Seid You should thank this respectable man for the Roe repeal. Good luck avoiding their products.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Could it be that some parts of the mainstream media sees Musk as a partial replacement for Trump, a great source of over-done outrage stories, clicks and ads? I think a bigger factor is that some parts of social media sees Musk as a partial replacement for Trump. And, particularly, that the part of social media to which Trump was most valuable for several years (before he was finally booted), and which has failed to draw Trump back recently despite very visible efforts, and which Musk now owns, sees him that way.