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The RIP Act in the UK allows for jail time for refusing to give a key.
by coob 15y ago
The RIP Act in the UK allows for jail time for refusing to give a key.
- josscrowcroft 15y ago"RIP privacy", amirite??
- Groxx 15y agoWhat if the key doesn't exist? The point of a hidden OS is plausible deniability. When used correctly, there shouldn't be any evidence that another OS exists. For instance: what if there wasn't a hidden OS, and you do keep random data in your unused HD space? They'd be jailing you for refusing to give something that doesn't exist.
- Natsu 15y ago> They'd be jailing you for refusing to give something that doesn't exist. That doesn't sound like a desirable outcome.
- DanBC 15y agoLike the non-terrorists subject to extraordinary rendition to Guantanomo bay so they could give the information about terrorism that they didn't have because they were not terrorists?
- polymatter 15y agoMy dad was the security officer in a major department of UK gov, and he asked this very question to legal. The response was that if the key doesn't exist, you must prove its non-existence. His protest on that fell on deaf ears. Furthermore, if the key is controlled under the Official Secrets Act, you will brake the law both when you hand them over you and when you don't. Basically, laws that don't make absolute logical sense are fine, they'll just decide who to prosecute. Totally fine, nothing to see here.
- Jach 15y agoThat's pretty damn messed up. Basically they're saying: "we're accusing you of having X, we didn't find it on your encrypted drive, but maybe you have a hidden OS where it's at! Give the key!" And suppose you did give up your hidden OS key and they still find nothing? Do they say "Aha! Well, we didn't find it on this device, but we found this innocent picture of Jesus--give us the key you used to steg the information inside!"? And suppose you actually had some steg'd info inside, but it's not the information they wanted, it's nothing illegal. Do they then say "Clearly you dumped the incriminating hard drive in a landfill--tell us where!"? Something mentioned at the beginning of the paper "I've Got Nothing to Hide" and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy, is Friedrich Dürrenmatt's Traps, from 1956. It involves a seemingly innocent man put on trial by a group of retired lawyers for a mock trial game, the man inquires what his crime shall be. "An altogether minor matter," the prosecutor replied … "A crime can always be found."
- FooBarWidget 15y agoIt's unplausible for unused space on the harddisk to be random due to the way filesystems work. Random data is likely to be encrypted data.