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Musk is too closely associated with the Tesla brand. The things the "Technoking" of Tesla does to make himself look bad also makes Tesla look bad. That's the p

Musk is too closely associated with the Tesla brand. The things the "Technoking" of Tesla does to make himself look bad also makes Tesla look bad. That's the practical reality of it whether you like it or not.

chitowneats 4y ago
I can never keep it straight: Is he a grifter business guy with no real influence on the success of Tesla, or the "Technoking" of the company, as you (admittedly amusingly) put it? It's not Musk who politicized Tesla. It's our culture that's so overtly politicized that the man can't have a single eccentric, interesting, or contrarian opinion while being the CEO of Tesla, without people seeking to punish the company over it out of spite.
- clouddrover 4y ago
  > "Technoking" of the company, as you (admittedly amusingly) put it? I didn't put it that way, Musk did: https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22331315/elon-musk-tesla-technoking-title-ceo https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22331315/elon-musk-tesla-... > It's not Musk who politicized Tesla. Yes it is. His antics and his absence is why there are calls for him to get his focus back on Tesla or be replaced at Tesla by a full time CEO: https://futurism.com/the-byte/tesla-shareholder-ditch-elon-musk https://futurism.com/the-byte/tesla-shareholder-ditch-elon-m... https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2022/12/27/tesla-stock-elon-musk-ceo.html https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2022/12/27/tesla-sto... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/27/tesla-stock-drops-lowest-close-years-elon-musk https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/27/tesla-sto...
  - chitowneats 4y ago
    If a founder or executive is distracted by another business venture, that's an issue. It has nothing to do with "politics", except in the minds of his critics.
    - clouddrover 4y ago
      No, it's in the minds of Tesla's shareholders. It's going to stay there until he cleans up his act.
- mola 4y ago
  Oh come on, he went full on culture war bullshit to pander for some people with specific political orientation. He's not saying some well thought opinions about politics we might not agree with. He is spouting trollish and plain evil crap (Roth is a pedo shananigans) meant to troll without any regard to the consequences. He is acting unhinged and that certainly should reflect on how we perceive his business acumen and ability to run companies and make rational decisions.
- watwut 4y ago
  He is grifter business guy able to raise money that made tesla big through combination of charizma, cult of personality and bullying business associates+employees to take advantage of them. He is alson bad at actually running companies and his personality cult ia breaking up now, so the overvaluation is ending along with that

chitowneats 4y ago

I can never keep it straight: Is he a grifter business guy with no real influence on the success of Tesla, or the "Technoking" of the company, as you (admittedly amusingly) put it? It's not Musk who politicized Tesla. It's our culture that's so overtly politicized that the man can't have a single eccentric, interesting, or contrarian opinion while being the CEO of Tesla, without people seeking to punish the company over it out of spite.

clouddrover 4y ago
> "Technoking" of the company, as you (admittedly amusingly) put it? I didn't put it that way, Musk did: https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22331315/elon-musk-tesla-technoking-title-ceo https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22331315/elon-musk-tesla-... > It's not Musk who politicized Tesla. Yes it is. His antics and his absence is why there are calls for him to get his focus back on Tesla or be replaced at Tesla by a full time CEO: https://futurism.com/the-byte/tesla-shareholder-ditch-elon-musk https://futurism.com/the-byte/tesla-shareholder-ditch-elon-m... https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2022/12/27/tesla-stock-elon-musk-ceo.html https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2022/12/27/tesla-sto... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/27/tesla-stock-drops-lowest-close-years-elon-musk https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/27/tesla-sto...
- chitowneats 4y ago
  If a founder or executive is distracted by another business venture, that's an issue. It has nothing to do with "politics", except in the minds of his critics.
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    No, it's in the minds of Tesla's shareholders. It's going to stay there until he cleans up his act.
mola 4y ago
Oh come on, he went full on culture war bullshit to pander for some people with specific political orientation. He's not saying some well thought opinions about politics we might not agree with. He is spouting trollish and plain evil crap (Roth is a pedo shananigans) meant to troll without any regard to the consequences. He is acting unhinged and that certainly should reflect on how we perceive his business acumen and ability to run companies and make rational decisions.
watwut 4y ago
He is grifter business guy able to raise money that made tesla big through combination of charizma, cult of personality and bullying business associates+employees to take advantage of them. He is alson bad at actually running companies and his personality cult ia breaking up now, so the overvaluation is ending along with that