>"real world" engineers need to be paid way more Why so? Sounds silly to me as a soft engineer, cause software dev is: 1. A lot of the time – connected to the

>"real world" engineers need to be paid way more Why so? Sounds silly to me as a soft engineer, cause software dev is: 1. A lot of the time – connected to the "real world" engineering, so it is just as real, modern real world and civil engineering can't function without software. 2. A lot more abstract, so we literally build whole factories in our brains, sometimes just one or two of us while real factories are built by hundreds of men 3. Well, a modern-day thing existing for less than a century, where real-world engineering in accumulating knowledge for centuries, essentially turning soft. IMO all real engineering will eventually turn software and cloud, in decades it will be possible to design real-world production and logistic pipelines just with code and abstracted robotic resources, like in factorio