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"Ogan, using NHTSA crash numbers, Tesla’s previous reports, sales numbers and other records, concluded that the number of reported Tesla crashes on U.S. roads h

"Ogan, using NHTSA crash numbers, Tesla’s previous reports, sales numbers and other records, concluded that the number of reported Tesla crashes on U.S. roads has grown far faster than Tesla’s sales growth. The average monthly growth in new Teslas since NHTSA issued its standing order was 6%, he figures, while comparable crash stats rose 21%." "The Tesla Autopilot crash numbers are far higher than those of similar driver-assistance systems from General Motors and Ford. Tesla has reported 516 crashes from July 2021 through November 2022, while Ford reported seven and GM two. To be sure, Tesla has far more vehicles equipped with driver-assist systems than the competition — an estimated 1 million, Ogan said, about 10 times as many as Ford. All else equal, that would imply Tesla ought to have a NHTSA-reported crash total of 70 since last summer to be comparable with Ford’s rate. Instead, Tesla reported 516 crashes."

habibur 4y ago
> Tesla crashes on U.S. roads has grown far faster than Tesla’s sales growth A fairer comparison would have been [ total number of reported crashes ] / [ total number of cars on road ]. Comparing it with sales growth will show poor performance for older brands which have a lot of cars on the road vs newer brands that are just release cars now.
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  Really needs to be number of crashes / miles driven. I suspect the real difference is that Tesla drivers cede far more autonomy to the car than other drivers. When you look up from your book and see that you are 20 feet from a collision at 65mph, it's too late to do anything about it.
  - Spooky23 4y ago
    I wonder why they would do such a thing? Perhaps dropping $10k or more on something called “full self driving” makes said drivers believe that the car can fully self drive by itself?
    - subroutine 4y ago
      > I wonder why they would do such a thing? For me it would be having used "full self driving" mode, diligently, for X years or X miles without any issues.
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habibur 4y ago

> Tesla crashes on U.S. roads has grown far faster than Tesla’s sales growth A fairer comparison would have been [ total number of reported crashes ] / [ total number of cars on road ]. Comparing it with sales growth will show poor performance for older brands which have a lot of cars on the road vs newer brands that are just release cars now.

SoftTalker 4y ago
Really needs to be number of crashes / miles driven. I suspect the real difference is that Tesla drivers cede far more autonomy to the car than other drivers. When you look up from your book and see that you are 20 feet from a collision at 65mph, it's too late to do anything about it.
- Spooky23 4y ago
  I wonder why they would do such a thing? Perhaps dropping $10k or more on something called “full self driving” makes said drivers believe that the car can fully self drive by itself?
  - subroutine 4y ago
    > I wonder why they would do such a thing? For me it would be having used "full self driving" mode, diligently, for X years or X miles without any issues.
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