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I'll probably get down voted for saying this but that's one of the reasons I'm jumping off the Android ship this year, and, no, I'm no aApple fanboy. I've had

by jscore 15y ago

I'll probably get down voted for saying this but that's one of the reasons I'm jumping off the Android ship this year, and, no, I'm no aApple fanboy. I've had the original Nexus, Nexus One, Nexus S and wanted to buy the G Nexus but if google/samsung are willing to put a device that can't function under normal operating environment, then they shouldn't have done at it all. See, with the iPhone (4S), I know Apple would never put out a device like this. It might not have things like a notification LED that blinks when u have a message, but the thing is bullet proof -- it just works. The mentality is certainly different. I want a finished product, and not be a beta tester for a company. It's no accident Apple sticks to their time-proven design: small 3.5" screen, no LTE, etc. And as I get more busy with my life (business, etc), I could careless about the "openness" of the Android platform--it's not like I'll be compiling ROMs all day. I just want something that works and won't let me down in the 11th hour and with Apple I know that won't happen.

zmmmmm 15y ago
You are aware that the 4S has been bedeviled by issues of poor battery life due to iOS5, no?
- lindvall 15y ago
  Can you elaborate on the 4S battery life issue? I've only had my iPhone 4S for a week, but I haven't noticed anything drastically worse than my iPhone 4. It certainly hasn't ran out of power during the course of a day yet.
  - baddox 15y ago
    I just got a 4S, and it seems noticeably worse than my 4 (which I only had for a few months after its initial release). It might just be that I've been playing with it more in the first week of owning it (coming off a year and a half with no smartphone), but the battery has consistently been down to 5% after 12 hours.
- bni 15y ago
  You are aware that there is a difference between software bugs hitting a subset of users, and a deliberately putting in features that the battery cant support, like gigantic screens and LTE, no?
csomar 15y ago
Not quite true in my experience. I have a Nexus S. My daily usage: - Around 1 hour surfing, reading feeds, playing games - Around 5-10 minutes calls (GSM or Skype) - Around 1 hour with music (screen off) - Checking time, emails, or message with it (10-12 times a day) The battery lasts for one day. I learned to charge it every night. My cousin has an iPhone 4 and it's almost the same thing.
buster 15y ago
Well, i don't think there is much of a difference between an iPhone and the Googlephones i had. It's round about one day of usage for both. You can get more days with less usage and turning off stuff, for sure, but ever since Apple and Google entered the market i've not seen a substantial difference in battery life. I am wondering which manufacturer will be the first to deliver a decent smartphone that works for one week, that'd probable one of the best selling smartphones ever sold..
- fr0sty 15y ago
  What is the use-case for the one-week battery? I plug my phone in every night when I go to bed and this has not seemed overly onerous.
  - buster 15y ago
    Ok, another question: You think it would be acceptable to have a car that can only drive 100 miles? Why would you want more?
    - fr0sty 15y ago
      What would be the refill/recharge time for this car? Is the alternative to have a 100gallon gas tank or towable battery array? I can charge my phone in under an hour. I can do so in the car, at my desk, or any of hundreds of other places given the ubiquity of micro-usb. For me, once I can go all day on a charge any excess capacity just means more weight/bulk. A week-long battery would be obscenely large, the phone unnecessarily heavy all while providing nearly zero benefit to my use case.
      - buster 15y ago
        I like how you use the word "phone".. a few years ago i had a phone that held weeks without recharging, that was awesome. Now: god forbid if i forget my charger when on business trips! Battery tech is constantly advencing too, but instead of using that extra power for longer battery life they put in more useless stuff. Who needs a fing barometer in his mobile!?
coob 15y ago
> It might not have things like a notification LED that blinks when u have a message It does, you can use the camera flash as a notification LED (it's under the Accessibility settings).

by jscore 15y ago

zmmmmm 15y ago

You are aware that the 4S has been bedeviled by issues of poor battery life due to iOS5, no?

lindvall 15y ago
Can you elaborate on the 4S battery life issue? I've only had my iPhone 4S for a week, but I haven't noticed anything drastically worse than my iPhone 4. It certainly hasn't ran out of power during the course of a day yet.
- baddox 15y ago
  I just got a 4S, and it seems noticeably worse than my 4 (which I only had for a few months after its initial release). It might just be that I've been playing with it more in the first week of owning it (coming off a year and a half with no smartphone), but the battery has consistently been down to 5% after 12 hours.
bni 15y ago
You are aware that there is a difference between software bugs hitting a subset of users, and a deliberately putting in features that the battery cant support, like gigantic screens and LTE, no?

csomar 15y ago

Not quite true in my experience. I have a Nexus S. My daily usage: - Around 1 hour surfing, reading feeds, playing games - Around 5-10 minutes calls (GSM or Skype) - Around 1 hour with music (screen off) - Checking time, emails, or message with it (10-12 times a day) The battery lasts for one day. I learned to charge it every night. My cousin has an iPhone 4 and it's almost the same thing.

buster 15y ago

Well, i don't think there is much of a difference between an iPhone and the Googlephones i had. It's round about one day of usage for both. You can get more days with less usage and turning off stuff, for sure, but ever since Apple and Google entered the market i've not seen a substantial difference in battery life. I am wondering which manufacturer will be the first to deliver a decent smartphone that works for one week, that'd probable one of the best selling smartphones ever sold..

fr0sty 15y ago
What is the use-case for the one-week battery? I plug my phone in every night when I go to bed and this has not seemed overly onerous.
- buster 15y ago
  Ok, another question: You think it would be acceptable to have a car that can only drive 100 miles? Why would you want more?
  - fr0sty 15y ago
    What would be the refill/recharge time for this car? Is the alternative to have a 100gallon gas tank or towable battery array? I can charge my phone in under an hour. I can do so in the car, at my desk, or any of hundreds of other places given the ubiquity of micro-usb. For me, once I can go all day on a charge any excess capacity just means more weight/bulk. A week-long battery would be obscenely large, the phone unnecessarily heavy all while providing nearly zero benefit to my use case.
    - buster 15y ago
      I like how you use the word "phone".. a few years ago i had a phone that held weeks without recharging, that was awesome. Now: god forbid if i forget my charger when on business trips! Battery tech is constantly advencing too, but instead of using that extra power for longer battery life they put in more useless stuff. Who needs a fing barometer in his mobile!?

coob 15y ago

> It might not have things like a notification LED that blinks when u have a message It does, you can use the camera flash as a notification LED (it's under the Accessibility settings).