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Its too bad they had to build a whole separate tool because Grafana wasn't capable. The Node graph panel for Grafana really needs some love. Edit: Also they n

Its too bad they had to build a whole separate tool because Grafana wasn't capable. The Node graph panel for Grafana really needs some love. Edit: Also they need a SaaS to sell, so of course.

buro9 4y ago
An update to the node graph is currently in the works, some love is being shown (I work at Grafana Labs). It's also too bad that they built their own eBPF instrumentation as the Cloudflare eBPF exporter also exists and is very good https://github.com/cloudflare/ebpf_exporter https://github.com/cloudflare/ebpf_exporter Alternatively if what you want specifically are the integrations mentioned on the coroot page then my money would be on isovalent and cilium
- nikolay_sivko 4y ago
  With ebpf-exporter it is not possible to implement complex logic, such as converting the PID of each TCP connection into a container name and the destination IP into a real IP according to the conntrack table.
  - alexeldeib 4y ago
    This seems like a limitation that could be lifted instead of introducing a separate product (disclaimer: familiar with ebpf exporter but haven’t dug into OP). Iirc ebpf exporter had some limitations, but they weren’t fundamental. However it was also fairly light, so maybe another tool is just the right solve.
    - nikolay_sivko 4y ago
      Coroot's agent collects data from various sources to cover all aspects of container behavior. Ebpf-exporter perfectly solves the problem of running custom ebpf programs and turning their output into metrics, but using it as a foundation for more specific solutions doesn't seem reasonable
- prpl 4y ago
  Are there more data sources or ways to overlay node graph information over time series data? I’ve wanted to use it, but haven’t had time to write a custom day source.
- tptacek 4y ago
  There's not much to the eBPF profiler they've built, and not very much overlap with ebpf_exporter; ebpf_exporter also seems to require CO-RE kernels.
- VectorLock 4y ago
  >An update to the node graph is currently in the works Some more info there would be fantastic.
nikolay_sivko 4y ago
Grafana offers one of the best solutions for storing and navigating through telemetry data, but there remains a challenge in using this data to generate insights. Our goal is to address this issue, even if it means occasionally reinventing the wheel. This is a necessary step at this stage.

Its too bad they had to build a whole separate tool because Grafana wasn't capable. The Node graph panel for Grafana really needs some love. Edit: Also they need a SaaS to sell, so of course.

buro9 4y ago

An update to the node graph is currently in the works, some love is being shown (I work at Grafana Labs). It's also too bad that they built their own eBPF instrumentation as the Cloudflare eBPF exporter also exists and is very good https://github.com/cloudflare/ebpf_exporter https://github.com/cloudflare/ebpf_exporter Alternatively if what you want specifically are the integrations mentioned on the coroot page then my money would be on isovalent and cilium

nikolay_sivko 4y ago
With ebpf-exporter it is not possible to implement complex logic, such as converting the PID of each TCP connection into a container name and the destination IP into a real IP according to the conntrack table.
- alexeldeib 4y ago
  This seems like a limitation that could be lifted instead of introducing a separate product (disclaimer: familiar with ebpf exporter but haven’t dug into OP). Iirc ebpf exporter had some limitations, but they weren’t fundamental. However it was also fairly light, so maybe another tool is just the right solve.
  - nikolay_sivko 4y ago
    Coroot's agent collects data from various sources to cover all aspects of container behavior. Ebpf-exporter perfectly solves the problem of running custom ebpf programs and turning their output into metrics, but using it as a foundation for more specific solutions doesn't seem reasonable
prpl 4y ago
Are there more data sources or ways to overlay node graph information over time series data? I’ve wanted to use it, but haven’t had time to write a custom day source.
tptacek 4y ago
There's not much to the eBPF profiler they've built, and not very much overlap with ebpf_exporter; ebpf_exporter also seems to require CO-RE kernels.
VectorLock 4y ago
>An update to the node graph is currently in the works Some more info there would be fantastic.

nikolay_sivko 4y ago

Grafana offers one of the best solutions for storing and navigating through telemetry data, but there remains a challenge in using this data to generate insights. Our goal is to address this issue, even if it means occasionally reinventing the wheel. This is a necessary step at this stage.