Yeah, I did a search and realized it was the emacs bindings but didn't bother editing my comment as most people I've worked with don't know them or even stop to

Yeah, I did a search and realized it was the emacs bindings but didn't bother editing my comment as most people I've worked with don't know them or even stop to consider if it's possible. A better example would be o/O, c3w, ci) and so on. Even holding Ctrl+[Arrow keys/backspace/delete] to move word by word is rare to see even if supported everywhere. Of course (and I mentioned it in my first comment) there are people fluent in vscode but it's far from the norm, and doesn't have to be. As you say for vim users it's a hobby or even lifestyle. But this thread started with questioning if "vim is a productivity gain at all", and I'm confident it is. I use it everywhere from window manager to browsers, and where it isn't natively supported by plugins/extensions I add my own keybindings to get at least movements and scroll.