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Given that this uses multiple Cloudflare services, is anyone very familiar with their pricing? The readme lists a "generous free tier", but I always have to won

Given that this uses multiple Cloudflare services, is anyone very familiar with their pricing? The readme lists a "generous free tier", but I always have to wonder what happens once you fall outside of that tier. I remember that R2 is cheap (one of its distinguishing features), but wonder if any of the other services suddenly become $50 a month or something.

015a 4y ago
Cloudflare's free tiers are hard-free; they stop working if you exceed the free tier usage (at least for compute; storage is different). Pages is essentially totally free. R2 is within the same pricing magnitude as S3. D1 is a very new product and afaik is still in beta and doesn't have production pricing yet; so be weary there. Zero Trust is less usage and more per-user, I think $7/mo/user.
- dangoor 4y ago
  Thanks! That's very helpful and sounds unlikely to get out of control (short of hosting a wildly popular video)
  - psytrx 4y ago
    They definitely have sensible backout mechanisms for their free tiers (i.e. Pages, they still serve static assets but disable compute/Functions). Also, their docs are written pretty well, and openly hint at dangerous price traps. We launched a big presale this year with an e-commerce app hosted on Workers, and we just barely hit the 5$ threshold for the paid plan. Did not use more services (other than DNS/proxy) though, so YMMV.
  - drexlspivey 4y ago
    R2 has free egress meaning you don’t pay for bandwidth when serving your popular video
    - dangoor 4y ago
      Wow.
- Telemakhos 4y ago
  > be weary I've seen this mistake three or four times recently, and it's starting to make me wonder why I keep seeing it so often now, when I didn't before. "Wary" (like "beware") means "cautious"; "weary" (like to "wear" someone out) means "tired."
  - beachy 4y ago
    Once seen it cannot be unseen. Like things that peak your interest (should be "pique" your interest).
  - wahnfrieden 4y ago
    Putting a quote and response onto one line means the whole thing is a quote. Hope you find this contribution to the conversation helpful as well as for all readers.
- dhdgrygev 4y ago
  R2 storage might be within the same order of magnitude as S3, but once you start serving content to users, it becomes many orders of magnitude cheaper.
wenbin 4y ago
op here. I've been looking for affordable hosting solution to serve multimedia files, e.g., podcast audio, which is typically the biggest part of cost for hosting. Cloudflare R2 is an attractive solution. R2 doesn't have egress fee and the free tier includes 10 million read requests/month [1]. Is 10 million a big number? Yes, at least in the podcast industry. If your podcast has 10 million listens per month (or let's be conservative, "only" 1 million listens/month), you could already make big money [2] while still in the free tier of R2! In other words, whenever you'll pay for R2, then you become a very successfully podcaster :) For other Cloudflare products that we use in microfeed * Zero Trust (provides logins to admin page) [3]: 50 users for free - how many admins do you need? 50 users enough? :) * Pages [4]: 100,000 functions requests/month for free. This should be enough for personal/small-business type websites. * D1 [5]: No pricing info yet. But they'll likely charge by # of reqs/month. * CDN / Firewall / Cache / DNS etc.: there are other Cloudflare products you can use for free. Probably the biggest price you'll pay when using microfeed is your time :) There are (almost) one-click SaaS solutions that save you time, but you'll pay with money. There are multiple-click self-managed solutions that save you money, but you'll pay with time. [1] https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/platform/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/platform/pricing/ [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+downloads+does+a+podcast+need+to+make+money https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+downloads+does+a+po... [3] https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/zero-trust-services/ https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/zero-trust-services/ [4] https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/developer-platform/ https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/developer-platform/ [5] https://developers.cloudflare.com/d1/platform/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/d1/platform/pricing/
- koheripbal 4y ago
  What's wrong with self hosting?
- ReD_CoDE 4y ago
  Which one is better? AWS solutions or Cloudflare ones? In prices and performance?

015a 4y ago

Cloudflare's free tiers are hard-free; they stop working if you exceed the free tier usage (at least for compute; storage is different). Pages is essentially totally free. R2 is within the same pricing magnitude as S3. D1 is a very new product and afaik is still in beta and doesn't have production pricing yet; so be weary there. Zero Trust is less usage and more per-user, I think $7/mo/user.

dangoor 4y ago
Thanks! That's very helpful and sounds unlikely to get out of control (short of hosting a wildly popular video)
- psytrx 4y ago
  They definitely have sensible backout mechanisms for their free tiers (i.e. Pages, they still serve static assets but disable compute/Functions). Also, their docs are written pretty well, and openly hint at dangerous price traps. We launched a big presale this year with an e-commerce app hosted on Workers, and we just barely hit the 5$ threshold for the paid plan. Did not use more services (other than DNS/proxy) though, so YMMV.
- drexlspivey 4y ago
  R2 has free egress meaning you don’t pay for bandwidth when serving your popular video
  - dangoor 4y ago
    Wow.
Telemakhos 4y ago
> be weary I've seen this mistake three or four times recently, and it's starting to make me wonder why I keep seeing it so often now, when I didn't before. "Wary" (like "beware") means "cautious"; "weary" (like to "wear" someone out) means "tired."
- beachy 4y ago
  Once seen it cannot be unseen. Like things that peak your interest (should be "pique" your interest).
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  Putting a quote and response onto one line means the whole thing is a quote. Hope you find this contribution to the conversation helpful as well as for all readers.
dhdgrygev 4y ago
R2 storage might be within the same order of magnitude as S3, but once you start serving content to users, it becomes many orders of magnitude cheaper.

wenbin 4y ago

op here. I've been looking for affordable hosting solution to serve multimedia files, e.g., podcast audio, which is typically the biggest part of cost for hosting. Cloudflare R2 is an attractive solution. R2 doesn't have egress fee and the free tier includes 10 million read requests/month [1]. Is 10 million a big number? Yes, at least in the podcast industry. If your podcast has 10 million listens per month (or let's be conservative, "only" 1 million listens/month), you could already make big money [2] while still in the free tier of R2! In other words, whenever you'll pay for R2, then you become a very successfully podcaster :) For other Cloudflare products that we use in microfeed * Zero Trust (provides logins to admin page) [3]: 50 users for free - how many admins do you need? 50 users enough? :) * Pages [4]: 100,000 functions requests/month for free. This should be enough for personal/small-business type websites. * D1 [5]: No pricing info yet. But they'll likely charge by # of reqs/month. * CDN / Firewall / Cache / DNS etc.: there are other Cloudflare products you can use for free. Probably the biggest price you'll pay when using microfeed is your time :) There are (almost) one-click SaaS solutions that save you time, but you'll pay with money. There are multiple-click self-managed solutions that save you money, but you'll pay with time. [1] https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/platform/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/platform/pricing/ [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+downloads+does+a+podcast+need+to+make+money https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+downloads+does+a+po... [3] https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/zero-trust-services/ https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/zero-trust-services/ [4] https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/developer-platform/ https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/developer-platform/ [5] https://developers.cloudflare.com/d1/platform/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/d1/platform/pricing/

koheripbal 4y ago
What's wrong with self hosting?
ReD_CoDE 4y ago
Which one is better? AWS solutions or Cloudflare ones? In prices and performance?