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"Canada’s welfare state is pretty good though." It's not. Not at all! If you have a positive experience please share it. Also please provide a comparison, even

by betaby 4y ago

"Canada’s welfare state is pretty good though." It's not. Not at all! If you have a positive experience please share it. Also please provide a comparison, even anecdotal one.

voisin 4y ago
My wife gave birth to our three children. Here are the costs: First child: $10.00 Second child: $10.00 Third child: $2.50 These were the parking fees for 24 hours (there were no complications necessitating longer stays) in the two different cities she gave birth (the third child was born in a much more rural area with cheaper parking). I cannot stress enough that it cost us $0.00 beyond these amounts. These costs include the use of a midwife in all three instances, with around 12 visits in advance of birth, then 2 midwives or 1 midwife and 2 nurses for the actual delivery, then 4-6 visits with the midwife post-birth, several of which were in our home. I would say that’s a positive experience.
- betaby 4y ago
  I don't follow really. You are comparing $10 to what? I can't think about a lot of countries with 'paid' childbirth. Also while childbirth falls under the health care I wouldn't think about it if asked. Also, lumping parking there? Why? In the poor country I'm originally from ambulance riding is free, and yes, one additional person can ride it too. I would think about illness treating first and foremost if asked about health care. Your comment is just sad to me.
  - voisin 4y ago
    I think the majority of HN readers seem to be American, so the costs are drastically different where births can be 10s of thousands of dollars, even with insurance. That’s why I brought it up. Any country that does free childbirth and ambulance rides and appointments with doctors and specialists, I would suggest has an excellent healthcare system, even if not perfect.
    - rayiner 4y ago
      Nearly all legal residents of the US are either eligible for Medicaid or covered by insurance. The average out of pocket cost of child birth is under $3,000 for people with insurance and free for people on Medicaid. Births to illegal immigrants accounts for about 5% of child births in the US. These are not covered by Medicaid, but are covered by some state health systems. To my knowledge, Canada does not extend healthcare to illegal immigrants either. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/illegal-immigrants-have-no-right-to-free-health-care-court https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/illegal-immigrants-have...
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empressplay 4y ago
My brother just had a quadruple bypass and he's recovering nicely. Cost $0.
ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
I had many positive experiences with it when I lived there. It wasn't perfect, but it was far better than what the US has.
kingofpandora 4y ago
I can't comment on welfare etc but the healthcare system is good. I've had mostly good experiences. Probably the worst part is getting a GP.

by betaby 4y ago

"Canada’s welfare state is pretty good though." It's not. Not at all! If you have a positive experience please share it. Also please provide a comparison, even anecdotal one.

voisin 4y ago

My wife gave birth to our three children. Here are the costs: First child: $10.00 Second child: $10.00 Third child: $2.50 These were the parking fees for 24 hours (there were no complications necessitating longer stays) in the two different cities she gave birth (the third child was born in a much more rural area with cheaper parking). I cannot stress enough that it cost us $0.00 beyond these amounts. These costs include the use of a midwife in all three instances, with around 12 visits in advance of birth, then 2 midwives or 1 midwife and 2 nurses for the actual delivery, then 4-6 visits with the midwife post-birth, several of which were in our home. I would say that’s a positive experience.

betaby 4y ago
I don't follow really. You are comparing $10 to what? I can't think about a lot of countries with 'paid' childbirth. Also while childbirth falls under the health care I wouldn't think about it if asked. Also, lumping parking there? Why? In the poor country I'm originally from ambulance riding is free, and yes, one additional person can ride it too. I would think about illness treating first and foremost if asked about health care. Your comment is just sad to me.
- voisin 4y ago
  I think the majority of HN readers seem to be American, so the costs are drastically different where births can be 10s of thousands of dollars, even with insurance. That’s why I brought it up. Any country that does free childbirth and ambulance rides and appointments with doctors and specialists, I would suggest has an excellent healthcare system, even if not perfect.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    Nearly all legal residents of the US are either eligible for Medicaid or covered by insurance. The average out of pocket cost of child birth is under $3,000 for people with insurance and free for people on Medicaid. Births to illegal immigrants accounts for about 5% of child births in the US. These are not covered by Medicaid, but are covered by some state health systems. To my knowledge, Canada does not extend healthcare to illegal immigrants either. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/illegal-immigrants-have-no-right-to-free-health-care-court https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/illegal-immigrants-have...
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empressplay 4y ago

My brother just had a quadruple bypass and he's recovering nicely. Cost $0.

ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago

I had many positive experiences with it when I lived there. It wasn't perfect, but it was far better than what the US has.

kingofpandora 4y ago

I can't comment on welfare etc but the healthcare system is good. I've had mostly good experiences. Probably the worst part is getting a GP.