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Musk’s provocative nonsense was a major reason why I didn’t consider leasing a Tesla earlier this year when I was in the market for an EV. I don’t think I’m the

Musk’s provocative nonsense was a major reason why I didn’t consider leasing a Tesla earlier this year when I was in the market for an EV. I don’t think I’m the only one who feels this way.

newZWhoDis 4y ago
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kortilla 4y ago
What EV did you choose instead? They are all so terrible by comparison when it comes to range and charging infra that it’s hard to go elsewhere. I don’t like Tesla because of the lack of CarPlay, etc and the tight attachment to their central servers but can’t find a reasonable alternative yet.
- aaronbrethorst 4y ago
  Kia Niro EV. It’s been totally fine, especially since I don’t have to commit to it for more than 3 years.
- SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
  >They are all so terrible by comparison when it comes to range and charging infra Come again? There are at least ten non-Tesla EVs that have a rated range of 300+ miles, and DC fast charging is everywhere. Look on PlugShare and filter out Tesla connectors. Tesla is not the only game in town. And I say that as someone who recently bought a Model S Plaid.
  - aaronbrethorst 4y ago
    I can attest to this. My wife and I took a road trip from Seattle to the redwoods in California and back this summer in the aforementioned Kia, and I didn't have any issue with charging infrastructure at any point along the trip.
  - kortilla 4y ago
    Ten models or ten cars? And are they actually capable of hitting that? I see people say this but I’m suspecting they don’t actually enjoy large road trips so don’t comprehend how terrible the difference is between 250 and 350 usable miles is. What EVs can do LA to Salt Lake City with one full charging stop?
    - SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
      > Ten models or ten cars? I don’t understand what you are asking. >What EVs can do LA to Salt Lake City with one full charging stop? I said that there are at least ten non-Tesla EVs that have a rated range over 300 miles. LA to Salt Lake City is ~690 miles, half of which is 345 miles. Few EV owners actually get their car’s rated range, and you’d have to be nuts to intentionally pull into a charging station with zero battery. Your scenario really calls for a car that has a rated range of ~400 miles, which, AFAIK, is currently limited to the Model S and the Lucid Air. The longest range configuration of a Model S has a 405 mile rated range, though you’re not going to get that on a long road trip. The Lucid Air’s rated range is 516 miles. No idea how that bears out in reality, though I suspect it’s similarly less-efficient at interstate highway speeds. (Actual speeds, not speed limits.) I’ll be test driving one soon.

Musk’s provocative nonsense was a major reason why I didn’t consider leasing a Tesla earlier this year when I was in the market for an EV. I don’t think I’m the only one who feels this way.

newZWhoDis 4y ago

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kortilla 4y ago

What EV did you choose instead? They are all so terrible by comparison when it comes to range and charging infra that it’s hard to go elsewhere. I don’t like Tesla because of the lack of CarPlay, etc and the tight attachment to their central servers but can’t find a reasonable alternative yet.

aaronbrethorst 4y ago
Kia Niro EV. It’s been totally fine, especially since I don’t have to commit to it for more than 3 years.
SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
>They are all so terrible by comparison when it comes to range and charging infra Come again? There are at least ten non-Tesla EVs that have a rated range of 300+ miles, and DC fast charging is everywhere. Look on PlugShare and filter out Tesla connectors. Tesla is not the only game in town. And I say that as someone who recently bought a Model S Plaid.
- aaronbrethorst 4y ago
  I can attest to this. My wife and I took a road trip from Seattle to the redwoods in California and back this summer in the aforementioned Kia, and I didn't have any issue with charging infrastructure at any point along the trip.
- kortilla 4y ago
  Ten models or ten cars? And are they actually capable of hitting that? I see people say this but I’m suspecting they don’t actually enjoy large road trips so don’t comprehend how terrible the difference is between 250 and 350 usable miles is. What EVs can do LA to Salt Lake City with one full charging stop?
  - SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
    > Ten models or ten cars? I don’t understand what you are asking. >What EVs can do LA to Salt Lake City with one full charging stop? I said that there are at least ten non-Tesla EVs that have a rated range over 300 miles. LA to Salt Lake City is ~690 miles, half of which is 345 miles. Few EV owners actually get their car’s rated range, and you’d have to be nuts to intentionally pull into a charging station with zero battery. Your scenario really calls for a car that has a rated range of ~400 miles, which, AFAIK, is currently limited to the Model S and the Lucid Air. The longest range configuration of a Model S has a 405 mile rated range, though you’re not going to get that on a long road trip. The Lucid Air’s rated range is 516 miles. No idea how that bears out in reality, though I suspect it’s similarly less-efficient at interstate highway speeds. (Actual speeds, not speed limits.) I’ll be test driving one soon.