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I would agree on this one, but his pro-Putin / anti-American policy towards Ukraine is the context here. Plus he loves to troll the U.S. Gov (particularly the D

by awacs 4y ago

I would agree on this one, but his pro-Putin / anti-American policy towards Ukraine is the context here. Plus he loves to troll the U.S. Gov (particularly the Dems) who literally made his life as a billionaire possible by funding him with billion to create Tesla when he was still basically "poor". He would be nothing without liberals who created the electric car incentive programs and EV loan programs, yet he trashes them left and right.

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astrange 4y ago
That was a reasonable strategy a while ago - if conservatives hate electric cars for tribal reasons, you've got to make an electric car they're allowed to like. At this point it just seems like he doesn't have any friends though.
newZWhoDis 4y ago
> but his pro-Putin / anti-American policy towards Ukraine What an absurd characterization. Don’t you have something better to do than wake up and post lies on the internet? He said they should negotiate an end to the war, that’s not “pro-putin”. It really bothers me when people like yourself post these blatantly false statements, and I can’t say I’m surprised this post is still up/not flagged.
- vgt 4y ago
  He specifically proposed terms friendly to Russia
- ModernMech 4y ago
  > He said they should negotiate an end to the war, that’s not “pro-putin”. People are trying to end this war and the next one. Anyone who believes Putin will back down after success in Ukraine isn't paying attention. Furthermore, the people who should be particularly quiet about what to do in Ukraine are those who swore that Russia would not invade in the first place, because they don't have a clue what makes Putin tick. The people who saw this war coming from a mile away are the ones who deserve attention now, and that's not Musk.
  - _kbh_ 4y ago
    > People are trying to end this war and the next one. Anyone who believes Putin will back down after success in Ukraine isn't paying attention. Furthermore, the people who should be particularly quiet about what to do in Ukraine are those who swore that Russia would not invade in the first place, because they don't have a clue what makes Putin tick. The people who saw this war coming from a mile away are the ones who deserve attention now, and that's not Musk. You don't understand, this time Russia and Putin will actually do what they agree to in a negotiation. Its not like Russia already agreed to never threaten Ukraines sovereignty already and decided they didn't like that agreement so they threw it out the window /s.

by awacs 4y ago

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astrange 4y ago

That was a reasonable strategy a while ago - if conservatives hate electric cars for tribal reasons, you've got to make an electric car they're allowed to like. At this point it just seems like he doesn't have any friends though.

newZWhoDis 4y ago

> but his pro-Putin / anti-American policy towards Ukraine What an absurd characterization. Don’t you have something better to do than wake up and post lies on the internet? He said they should negotiate an end to the war, that’s not “pro-putin”. It really bothers me when people like yourself post these blatantly false statements, and I can’t say I’m surprised this post is still up/not flagged.

vgt 4y ago
He specifically proposed terms friendly to Russia
ModernMech 4y ago
> He said they should negotiate an end to the war, that’s not “pro-putin”. People are trying to end this war and the next one. Anyone who believes Putin will back down after success in Ukraine isn't paying attention. Furthermore, the people who should be particularly quiet about what to do in Ukraine are those who swore that Russia would not invade in the first place, because they don't have a clue what makes Putin tick. The people who saw this war coming from a mile away are the ones who deserve attention now, and that's not Musk.
- _kbh_ 4y ago
  > People are trying to end this war and the next one. Anyone who believes Putin will back down after success in Ukraine isn't paying attention. Furthermore, the people who should be particularly quiet about what to do in Ukraine are those who swore that Russia would not invade in the first place, because they don't have a clue what makes Putin tick. The people who saw this war coming from a mile away are the ones who deserve attention now, and that's not Musk. You don't understand, this time Russia and Putin will actually do what they agree to in a negotiation. Its not like Russia already agreed to never threaten Ukraines sovereignty already and decided they didn't like that agreement so they threw it out the window /s.