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That sounds an attack on the people of India for something a private company is doing. I also don't think the US has jurisdiction there, so I'd much rather see
by e_i_pi_2 4y ago
That sounds an attack on the people of India for something a private company is doing. I also don't think the US has jurisdiction there, so I'd much rather see an investment in education or public infrastructure to help with it.
If this was similar to the Russia stuff where the goal was to affect the election and was sponsored by the govt then sanctions kinda make sense, but this is a problem of international communication between private citizens. If we wanted to make some law for this that seems cool but it'd need to be done at the UN, not in the US
- _Algernon_ 4y agoWhy should the US invest in Indian education and infrastructure when India, by its inaction, is responsible for such parasitism against US citizens? It sucks that sanctions would cause collateral damage, but India is a democracy. No voting citizen is absolved of guilt.
- e_i_pi_2 4y agoI'm saying we should invest in educating people in the US to stop falling for the scams, or for infrastructure to stop in here in the US. As another comment notes, the US is responsible for plenty of parasitism (MLMs, ponzi, crypto) that is likely a higher total value, but I suspect most citizens would feel it's unfair to sanction them because of some bad actors in the economy
- weakfortress 4y ago[flagged]
- e_i_pi_2 4y agoI think this is an "ought VS is" thing - I know realistically the US could just hit people until they agree, but this is something that would need to be handled by an international governing body. If someone in NY scams someone in CA, CA can't just unilaterally prosecute them, it becomes a federal crime because it's across state lines. Similarly this is between countries and I don't know if we even have international laws for stuff like this, so it may not even be truly illegal. The US could request extradition but I think that's the extent of the legal actions the government could take.
- dymk 4y ago> That sounds an attack on the people of India for something a private company is doing. It's the responsibility of the Indian government to police what happens within its borders. The Indian government has turned blind eye to scammers in their country targeting the US, they're effectively endorsing it. Why should the US continue to do business with a country that leeches off of the US citizenry? Historically, the US has done the same thing to Japan, and more recently, China, when their businesses undermine US businesses. Either by not respecting US IP or by running US businesses under through collusion.
- e_i_pi_2 4y agoI don't agree with the Russian sanctions, you're doing collective punishment on a population of people, many of whom presumably don't even support the war. It may be an effective strategy but that alone doesn't justify it
- dymk 4y agoHow do you punish and manipulate a government without punishing its people, either as a side effect or direct goal? Even if you come up with some way to somehow target specifically how the government functions but entirely spare the citizens from externalities, the government will just hold its citizenry "hostage".
- e_i_pi_2 4y agoI don't think we should be coercing their government to do anything, we should educate our own citizenry, build infrastructure to protect against it, lobby the international community to make a legal process for it, or all three