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I've come back to this country and have had two people with mental illnesses tell me they want to apply for this shit, which aren't being properly addressed bec

I've come back to this country and have had two people with mental illnesses tell me they want to apply for this shit, which aren't being properly addressed because you basically have to be committed to a mental institution in order to get proper mental healthcare here. I honestly think it's fucked. The provision for this and mental health issues which they're just not even fucking trying to treat just makes my blood boil. Look I honestly think it should be a thing, people should have the right to access to this for terminal illnesses and all that which it makes absolute sense for - but implementing it in the middle of a huge public healthcare crisis [1] is the worst timing ever. I waited a month just to see a GP for a simple prescription refill. And before you tell me I'm complaining about something that's free, I returned to Canada with a 16k medical bill because I didn't declare I left the province, as it turns out something called medical service premiums are a thing in some provinces. All to come back to waiting a month for a GP? I'm paying this shit off, and leaving forever. A lot of other smart people have too. Hey check out this guy in this news report, he has like BACK PAIN ISSUES and is being encouraged to do this shit. Oh sorry unfit for work eh? Well sorry that's too bad cocks gun [2] [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-health-care-system-collapse-1.6590461 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-health-care-system... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up5k2Lx5SPI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up5k2Lx5SPI

throwntoday 4y ago
The particularly disgusting part is discussing savings to the healthcare system. They're not even trying to be opaque about it. My fear is it becoming so normalized that anyone going through a bout of depression will be influenced by people online and the healthcare system to go forward with this. Truly breaks my heart.
- jamal-kumar 4y ago
  I don't really think things are going to get THAT bleak just because I understand this to be at the discretion of individual doctors and it just feels a bit like a slippery slope fallacious argument. But the way things are NOW is pretty bleak, I mean they're definitely looking at it in a utilitarian money saving way. I've always been a supporter of medically assisted dying but you have to be so incredibly careful in implementing it. I don't think this is a great example of a fantastic implementation when you have people who are already on the edge of treatable mental illness crisis situations who simply aren't getting the best treatment they could be getting, publicly considering suicide with their friends. Like it just isn't what I would call the kind of society I'd like to live in, just hearing that is beyond stressful bullshit. I've already lost enough people to that. It just makes the general mental health climate feel soured. There's TV commercials promoting it and shit, and it just sends off huge NO bells in my mind. [1] I mean sure if you have cancer and everything didn't work and it's just excrutiating pain? Dementia and you are on the verge of aspiration pneumonia because you forgot how to eat? There's tons of conditions I have it in mind for but mental health problems is not the business... Anyways I am on my way to the tropics again for sunshine and happiness haha [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQieHW8rQU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQieHW8rQU
- collyw 4y ago
  In soviet russia, healthcare system saves you.

throwntoday 4y ago

The particularly disgusting part is discussing savings to the healthcare system. They're not even trying to be opaque about it. My fear is it becoming so normalized that anyone going through a bout of depression will be influenced by people online and the healthcare system to go forward with this. Truly breaks my heart.

jamal-kumar 4y ago
I don't really think things are going to get THAT bleak just because I understand this to be at the discretion of individual doctors and it just feels a bit like a slippery slope fallacious argument. But the way things are NOW is pretty bleak, I mean they're definitely looking at it in a utilitarian money saving way. I've always been a supporter of medically assisted dying but you have to be so incredibly careful in implementing it. I don't think this is a great example of a fantastic implementation when you have people who are already on the edge of treatable mental illness crisis situations who simply aren't getting the best treatment they could be getting, publicly considering suicide with their friends. Like it just isn't what I would call the kind of society I'd like to live in, just hearing that is beyond stressful bullshit. I've already lost enough people to that. It just makes the general mental health climate feel soured. There's TV commercials promoting it and shit, and it just sends off huge NO bells in my mind. [1] I mean sure if you have cancer and everything didn't work and it's just excrutiating pain? Dementia and you are on the verge of aspiration pneumonia because you forgot how to eat? There's tons of conditions I have it in mind for but mental health problems is not the business... Anyways I am on my way to the tropics again for sunshine and happiness haha [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQieHW8rQU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQieHW8rQU
collyw 4y ago
In soviet russia, healthcare system saves you.