If a car is 5 meters from a wall going at 80mph straight into it, the car will 100% crash into a wall. No ice conditions needed. The example with icy conditio

If a car is 5 meters from a wall going at 80mph straight into it, the car will 100% crash into a wall. No ice conditions needed. The example with icy conditions though is that once your car noticeably lost traction you know perfectly well you are no longer in control and that there's nothing you can do to save yourself rather than betting on getting lucky.