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I feel proud as a human to see these brave women standing up for their rights and wish them and their fellow countrypeople all of the success with no bloodshed.
by obituary_latte 4y ago
I feel proud as a human to see these brave women standing up for their rights and wish them and their fellow countrypeople all of the success with no bloodshed. It's time we move out of the age of religious compulsion on all fronts.
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- ameen 4y agoFunny thing is, as a practicing muslim - there is no compulsion in religion (direct quote from the Qur'an). Iran literally is using the ignorance of the populace to push their own means of controlling the masses.
- cinntaile 4y agoWhat are some examples of muslim majority countries that allow women to not wear one?
- Laaas 4y agoQuite a few? Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, etc. etc.
- MMAesawy 4y agoAll but Iran, and possibly some parts of Saudi Arabia?
- cultofmetatron 4y agocurrently in morocco. I see plenty of muslim women without headscarves.
- kingofpandora 4y agoIt's mandatory in two countries by my count, and optional in all the rest.
- Mystery-Machine 4y agoThere is no compulsion for hijab or there is no compulsion for many other discriminatory practices that, guess what, Muslim-majority countries impose?
- 31337Logic 4y agoJust stop.
- rayiner 4y ago(My dad’s grandfather was an imam.) That means that you can’t compel people to convert to Islam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Baqara_256 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Baqara_256. That does not mean you can’t have binding religious law Muslims are required to follow. That being said, the religious requirement is modest dress. Some traditions interpret that to require covering the hair or face. Other traditions do not. Hijab was uncommon in Bangladesh when my parents were growing up, but is increasingly common today due to growing cultural influence from middle eastern schools of Islam. That said, it’s worth noting that Islam is not like Protestant Christianity where lay people are supposed to interpret the meaning for themselves. Where relevant Islamic experts have spoken you’re supposed to defer to their interpretation.
- orlp 4y agoThat works until you end up with one scholar saying A and another saying B.
- ameen 4y agoThank you for the contextualization - but Iran’s handling is nowhere close to Islamic, not observing the hijab doesn’t take you out of the fold of Islam (also where have men been held to the hijab - covering awrah, in such places?) - the 5 pillars are the fardh, everything else is something we strive towards. Allah SWT’s mercy is boundless, hudhud punishments can’t be enacted for something minor of this sort. Iranian government lost the plot and is using every excuse to feign legitimacy when it never had any.
- exabrial 4y agoPrecisely. Will of man vs will of God. The same thing is repeated all over the world unfortunately with other religious faiths.
- thoew232s 4y agoYou are missing the point. Individual should be free to ignore religion. Every religion has bad verses. Quran advocates to kill non belivers and other religious people and yet many choose not to do it. This is not a problem when you live in a secular democratic country. But once you live in a islamic state this law can not be questioned even if you dont like it. For this reason the main point here is not what religion allows or dis allows. It is people should have the right to say fuck off to religion.
- oneoff786 4y agoWell there’s already a ton of bloodshed so that may not be the best wish
- 31337Logic 4y agoNo, it's still a good wish.
- oneoff786 4y agoWell, do what you do, but I wish them a successful, violent insurgency. Non-violence does not work when the ruling party is willing to murder you.
- 31337Logic 4y agoThanks for this post.
- nashashmi 4y agoWhen we encourage people to protest their govt, we endanger their lives while being risk free of our own. I fear that many of the people who have encouraged these protests are still in the shadows smiling everytime someone dies. Alinejad is one of them.
- sjducb 4y agoI think that the protestors want as much support as possible. If you take the risk to protest then you want your allies and supporters to cheer you on.
- nashashmi 4y agoExcept this movement was not started by the protestors on the ground. It was started by protestors on twitter, some of whom spread false news to exacerbate the situation.
- sjducb 4y agoHello propaganda account. That's not relavent. Right now lots of ppl are protesting and they want support.
- michaeltimo 4y agoThe main reason for these demonstrations is the systematic repression of this corrupt dictator's regime for over 4 decades, and not the coverage of the news and the reflection of the people's voices by Iranian journalists like Alinejad. What causes the killing of people is this bloodthirsty regime and its dictator, Khamenei. Please don't write the regime's fallacies here, no one buys it.
- nashashmi 4y agoI doubt anyone, save Iran's western opponents, believes the demonstrations are a result of built up systematic repression. ONLY women are participating the vast majority of the times and males who are attempting to support THEM. This is not something that has been building up. But rather was instigated in a color revolution. Calling Alinejad a journalist is like calling Edward Snowden a journalist. They are nothing other than whistleblowers. Except Alinejad lied this one instance and shows glee when people die. Please don't make these protests largely about the regime. They are specifically protesting for their rights.