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Look at the UI: The grey bar connects the month and year, making it seem visually as if they would move together. It's a really terrible UI - why would the mon

by ars 4y ago

Look at the UI: The grey bar connects the month and year, making it seem visually as if they would move together. It's a really terrible UI - why would the month and year both pop up at the same time? They should come up independently.

michaelteter 4y ago
I disagree about them needing to be separate. Once you have that panel open (and knowing how to open it is the problem), you see the two high level selectors that you need. If you only need one, then the other is harmless and will not confuse you; you will just not touch it.
- pmontra 4y ago
  Of course it's better to have them moving separately, otherwise somebody would move 12*n times the month to move n times the year, before discovering that the year also moves, if they'll ever discover it. However a better solution would be to show only the month and only the year in two separate screens. No surprises, no chances of using the UI inefficiently. And for 12 months, you can show all of them together on the screen. Same for the years, you can show more than one at the same time and scroll many of them together.
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  - michaelteter 4y ago
    Absolutely they should _move_ separately, but they can both be visible at the same time. I'm not suggesting that they are stuck together; that would be pointless.
    - bbbobbb 4y ago
      I think you're talking about slightly different things. The issue (which I agree with) is that the month and date "share" a continuous grey background which makes them seem connected. They can be visible at the same time, but it would make sense to me to separate the backgrounds as to indicate that they can be scrolled separately before touching them.
      - michaelteter 4y ago
        Ok, I see. Yes I do agree that having some visual indication of independence of month from year would be better than none. Although in this case since the only thing you can do is try to touch and move something, it only takes one "not sure what this does-touch" action to discover that they are independent; and then you know how to operate it. Not ideal, but low on the pain scale.
kevincox 4y ago
Popping them up at the same time is really good for "pipelining". I know that the year picker is next and I know where it is while I am entering the month. If you hide it on a different screen I need to react to it when it appears. Not to mention that you now need a "Next" button and a "Back" button in case I made a mistake (or just want to double-check what I inputted)
masklinn 4y ago
> Look at the UI: The grey bar connects the month and year, making it seem visually as if they would move together. It does not, that interpretation does not make any sense. Although I do agree that the old skeymorphic iteration of the control which made it clear those are wheels and the bar is an index was infinitely clearer: https://www.andyibanez.com/img/date_picker_pre_7.png https://www.andyibanez.com/img/date_picker_pre_7.png

by ars 4y ago

michaelteter 4y ago

I disagree about them needing to be separate. Once you have that panel open (and knowing how to open it is the problem), you see the two high level selectors that you need. If you only need one, then the other is harmless and will not confuse you; you will just not touch it.

pmontra 4y ago
Of course it's better to have them moving separately, otherwise somebody would move 12*n times the month to move n times the year, before discovering that the year also moves, if they'll ever discover it. However a better solution would be to show only the month and only the year in two separate screens. No surprises, no chances of using the UI inefficiently. And for 12 months, you can show all of them together on the screen. Same for the years, you can show more than one at the same time and scroll many of them together.
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- michaelteter 4y ago
  Absolutely they should _move_ separately, but they can both be visible at the same time. I'm not suggesting that they are stuck together; that would be pointless.
  - bbbobbb 4y ago
    I think you're talking about slightly different things. The issue (which I agree with) is that the month and date "share" a continuous grey background which makes them seem connected. They can be visible at the same time, but it would make sense to me to separate the backgrounds as to indicate that they can be scrolled separately before touching them.
    - michaelteter 4y ago
      Ok, I see. Yes I do agree that having some visual indication of independence of month from year would be better than none. Although in this case since the only thing you can do is try to touch and move something, it only takes one "not sure what this does-touch" action to discover that they are independent; and then you know how to operate it. Not ideal, but low on the pain scale.

kevincox 4y ago

Popping them up at the same time is really good for "pipelining". I know that the year picker is next and I know where it is while I am entering the month. If you hide it on a different screen I need to react to it when it appears. Not to mention that you now need a "Next" button and a "Back" button in case I made a mistake (or just want to double-check what I inputted)

masklinn 4y ago

> Look at the UI: The grey bar connects the month and year, making it seem visually as if they would move together. It does not, that interpretation does not make any sense. Although I do agree that the old skeymorphic iteration of the control which made it clear those are wheels and the bar is an index was infinitely clearer: https://www.andyibanez.com/img/date_picker_pre_7.png https://www.andyibanez.com/img/date_picker_pre_7.png