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I think you’re letting semantics get in the way of the raw truth. Don’t recall the other citizens (in Britain) of said “mother” country having their non-potato
by ac2u 4y ago
I think you’re letting semantics get in the way of the raw truth.
Don’t recall the other citizens (in Britain) of said “mother” country having their non-potato crops exported while they starved.
If colony is being used as a pejorative here, it’s deserved to the point where it overrides the semantics of governance and citizenship.
- messe 4y agoIt's also misleading to cite 1801 as the date of Ireland becoming a colony. Ireland was pretty much the prototype for the rest of Britain's overseas colonies, starting with the plantations of Ulster in the 1600s[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation_of_Ulster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation_of_Ulster
- dragonwriter 4y agoViewing colonization of Ireland as starting with the Plantation of Ulster is misleading, since the Plantation was motivated by the fact that Ulster was the least effectively colonized part of Ireland at that point. (Which, I guess, further underlines the error of saying colonization of Ireland started two hundred years after the Plantation.)
- messe 4y agoWell... yes, but also no. I bring up the plantation of Ulster because it has the most direct comparison to more recent colonization efforts; that makes it easy to draw a nice line in the sand saying "this is when it happened". With the rest of Ireland, it's a slower process that started with the norman invasion and isn't nearly as clear cut.
- dragonwriter 4y agoFair enough.