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This makes zero sense to me. There are thousands of lakes in the Sierras that are on "state" or "county" or "federal" land. None of those are subject to the b

This makes zero sense to me. There are thousands of lakes in the Sierras that are on "state" or "county" or "federal" land. None of those are subject to the bizarre rules you posit. There must be something different about who actually owns/manages the lake you refer to? Or perhaps you are mistakenly under the impression that specific rules that exist for a particular beach you use for access(and accompanying watery recreational area) apply to the whole lake?

robomartin 4y ago
Los Angeles County. > Or perhaps you are mistakenly under the impression Not the case. We've been using the lake for 25 years. I know most of the lifeguards, including the director of the department. They know me well because I used to get into the lake on my kayak with a dry-suit in full-blown Santa Ana winds. In other words, over the years, they came to understand it was unlikely they would have to rescue me or my kids. Anyhow, one day I was there with my German Shepherds just hanging out, walking on the beech. The director of the lifeguards just happened to be on the patrol boat on duty that day. He came over to say hi and very clearly told me something akin to "You know, Martin, I could site you and even arrest you for getting your feet into the water anywhere in this lake". That led to something like "You have to be fucking kidding me". "No, I am not". And then we had a conversation. He didn't like it any more than I did. Now that I remember, he did make mention of people drowning and lawsuits. I'm pretty sure that's the genesis of the regulation. While I can't find the rule in writing, I recall having seen a document with this information (this was probably 15 years ago).
- SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
  >The director of the lifeguards just happened to be on the patrol boat on duty that day. He came over to say hi and very clearly told me something akin to "You know, Martin, I could site you and even arrest you The lifeguard has police authority?
  - robomartin 4y ago
    They have the right to make misdemeanor arrests. They can also issue citations.

robomartin 4y ago

Los Angeles County. > Or perhaps you are mistakenly under the impression Not the case. We've been using the lake for 25 years. I know most of the lifeguards, including the director of the department. They know me well because I used to get into the lake on my kayak with a dry-suit in full-blown Santa Ana winds. In other words, over the years, they came to understand it was unlikely they would have to rescue me or my kids. Anyhow, one day I was there with my German Shepherds just hanging out, walking on the beech. The director of the lifeguards just happened to be on the patrol boat on duty that day. He came over to say hi and very clearly told me something akin to "You know, Martin, I could site you and even arrest you for getting your feet into the water anywhere in this lake". That led to something like "You have to be fucking kidding me". "No, I am not". And then we had a conversation. He didn't like it any more than I did. Now that I remember, he did make mention of people drowning and lawsuits. I'm pretty sure that's the genesis of the regulation. While I can't find the rule in writing, I recall having seen a document with this information (this was probably 15 years ago).

SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
>The director of the lifeguards just happened to be on the patrol boat on duty that day. He came over to say hi and very clearly told me something akin to "You know, Martin, I could site you and even arrest you The lifeguard has police authority?
- robomartin 4y ago
  They have the right to make misdemeanor arrests. They can also issue citations.