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Out of curiosity (and I mean this sincerely), could you explain how if I were to copy and paste this post as a response to this post it wouldn’t apply equally?

Out of curiosity (and I mean this sincerely), could you explain how if I were to copy and paste this post as a response to this post it wouldn’t apply equally? Aren’t you kind of just pointing out your personal feelings about a different cause of outrage? It certainly does not have any bearing on this mathematical problem or sequence.

zarzavat 4y ago
If a comment is off-topic, and bringing gendered language into a thread about mathematics surely is, then it’s OK to point out that it’s off-topic. In an ideal world everybody would read the guidelines, but practically we all need a reminder every now and then.
- braingenious 4y ago
  I didn’t ask if this was within the rules, I asked if this post about pointless outrage points was in and of itself a post about pointless outrage points. I worded it in a way that is easily answered in a yes or no fashion.
notjoemama 4y ago
Neither are you referring to the topic and as such adding to the conversation. At least I'll be up front for other readers and say neither will I. I agree with the previous comment that it adds nothing but will further expand that it is someone else's imposition of their will and perspective on society, a form of forced ideology. I say while yes it adds nothing I think it is modern facism that seeks to control and silence anyone that would prefer to discuss alternatives to its supposed social validation. Or, to suggest, narcisism and histronic personality disorder are being elevated to a dysfunctional level using empathy as a weapon and that acceptance is the exact opposite of an appropriate response. And unlike the proponents I have spoken to thus far, I am at least willing to also say that is my opinion. Yes, based on some fact and my own personal experiences. But neither is this intersectional theory being explained and sxientifically supported. What's so hard about having conversations like these is knowing a mere rhetorical statement from the other side can paint me or anyone else that might think differently than "the message" as racist, sexist, or whatever convenient negative moniker has been utilized by the proponents. Were we to engage in a real discussion about the underlying cause of the great generfication of society, we'd have to be open to going back to the origin and questioning (at this point) assumed outcomes. That is the willingness of a truly wise person who wishes to seek truth, whether improper or inconvenient. That kind of person is willing to be wrong on a path to becoming right. And I question whether there is anyone being a proponent of genderfication that would be willing to enagge in such dialog. They would have to be either confident or comfortable with admitting possible outcomes and alternatives have been discarded in favor of the progress of someone else's ideas. The problem is a very human one; assuming that admitting you're wrong means you lose power. The truly wise son't wish for or seek power in the first place. Only the truth.
- braingenious 4y ago
  This is very dense and somewhat confusing to me. Is your answer to my second (yes or no) question a yes or a no? edit: Like sorry if I look stupid here, but can you quote and answer either of my questions? Do you feel like you answered either of them?
  - notjoemama 4y ago
    I will not answer your questions the way you framed them but try to respond from my own perspective because I personally think you framed them without regard to promoting good discourse. I do not think either comment is evidence of outrage (opposing your supposition) but the reply stating that the previous added nothing to the conversation, I agree somewhat with you, also adds nothing to the conversation. What it does is offer the premise for a different conversation and in that regard both may add value. I appoligize for not making that point plain, I felt it was obvious.
    - braingenious 4y ago
      >I will not answer your questions Can you describe your ideal outcome of this exchange then?
      - notjoemama 4y ago
        I explained that I was responding from my perspective. I will need some clarification from you now. Can you explain what specifically you're having trouble understanding?
        braingenious 4y ago
        Yes, I can explain what I’m having trouble understanding! In fact, I’ve posted unanswered questions in this very thread detailing the things that I would like to know! Feel free to reference my previous questions as several answers to your question.

zarzavat 4y ago

If a comment is off-topic, and bringing gendered language into a thread about mathematics surely is, then it’s OK to point out that it’s off-topic. In an ideal world everybody would read the guidelines, but practically we all need a reminder every now and then.

braingenious 4y ago
I didn’t ask if this was within the rules, I asked if this post about pointless outrage points was in and of itself a post about pointless outrage points. I worded it in a way that is easily answered in a yes or no fashion.

notjoemama 4y ago

Neither are you referring to the topic and as such adding to the conversation. At least I'll be up front for other readers and say neither will I. I agree with the previous comment that it adds nothing but will further expand that it is someone else's imposition of their will and perspective on society, a form of forced ideology. I say while yes it adds nothing I think it is modern facism that seeks to control and silence anyone that would prefer to discuss alternatives to its supposed social validation. Or, to suggest, narcisism and histronic personality disorder are being elevated to a dysfunctional level using empathy as a weapon and that acceptance is the exact opposite of an appropriate response. And unlike the proponents I have spoken to thus far, I am at least willing to also say that is my opinion. Yes, based on some fact and my own personal experiences. But neither is this intersectional theory being explained and sxientifically supported. What's so hard about having conversations like these is knowing a mere rhetorical statement from the other side can paint me or anyone else that might think differently than "the message" as racist, sexist, or whatever convenient negative moniker has been utilized by the proponents. Were we to engage in a real discussion about the underlying cause of the great generfication of society, we'd have to be open to going back to the origin and questioning (at this point) assumed outcomes. That is the willingness of a truly wise person who wishes to seek truth, whether improper or inconvenient. That kind of person is willing to be wrong on a path to becoming right. And I question whether there is anyone being a proponent of genderfication that would be willing to enagge in such dialog. They would have to be either confident or comfortable with admitting possible outcomes and alternatives have been discarded in favor of the progress of someone else's ideas. The problem is a very human one; assuming that admitting you're wrong means you lose power. The truly wise son't wish for or seek power in the first place. Only the truth.

braingenious 4y ago
This is very dense and somewhat confusing to me. Is your answer to my second (yes or no) question a yes or a no? edit: Like sorry if I look stupid here, but can you quote and answer either of my questions? Do you feel like you answered either of them?
- notjoemama 4y ago
  I will not answer your questions the way you framed them but try to respond from my own perspective because I personally think you framed them without regard to promoting good discourse. I do not think either comment is evidence of outrage (opposing your supposition) but the reply stating that the previous added nothing to the conversation, I agree somewhat with you, also adds nothing to the conversation. What it does is offer the premise for a different conversation and in that regard both may add value. I appoligize for not making that point plain, I felt it was obvious.
  - braingenious 4y ago
    >I will not answer your questions Can you describe your ideal outcome of this exchange then?
    - notjoemama 4y ago
      I explained that I was responding from my perspective. I will need some clarification from you now. Can you explain what specifically you're having trouble understanding?
      - braingenious 4y ago
        Yes, I can explain what I’m having trouble understanding! In fact, I’ve posted unanswered questions in this very thread detailing the things that I would like to know! Feel free to reference my previous questions as several answers to your question.