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I remember Novells NDS (directory service) to be miles head of Microsoft AD back in Windows 2000, and even many years after. But AD was included "for free" in W

by torh 4y ago

I remember Novells NDS (directory service) to be miles head of Microsoft AD back in Windows 2000, and even many years after. But AD was included "for free" in Windows, and the rest is history...

mc32 4y ago
Apparently there were places that Leo mete are around for printer server services as it apparently handles printer queues better, so they said.
- Scramblejams 4y ago
  Having trouble parsing this. Can you please restate?
  - mc32 4y ago
    Autocorrection mangled it. Some places kept them around as print servers… (after NT displaced them as directory servers)
Neil44 4y ago
It’s hard to beat free. And of course MS is now trying to kill on prem AD in favour of subscription based AAD.
lproven 4y ago
> But AD was included "for free" in Windows, and the rest is history... I don't think that's a valid point. NDS was included for free in all versions of Netware from 4.0 onwards. The Windows client for Netware was free, and Netware came with the Windows management tools and so on. I upgraded one company's network with a fleet of new workstations in about 1999. A few previous consultants told them it was impossible because they'd lost the installation media for the network client. Back then, it was new, but they didn't know you could just... download the client from Novell's website. So I did, and switched out a fleet of 16-bit Windows boxes for NT 4 clients and the official Novell client. No CD drives: just bootstrap NT install with a DOS floppy, fetch the installation files from the server. Saved enough cost to pay for a few extra workstations. It wasn't about price. The 2 killer factors of NT 4 Server displacing Netware 4 were: * Ease of use: you didn't need to know what you were doing with NT. It's Windows. Click around, click "Next" and "OK" enough, you can get it going. * Netware servers were effectively dedicated to file and print. There were a few server apps but many of them destroyed Netware's famed stability. NT 4 Server is just Windows and you can run anything you like on the server, while it's still being a server.

by torh 4y ago

I remember Novells NDS (directory service) to be miles head of Microsoft AD back in Windows 2000, and even many years after. But AD was included "for free" in Windows, and the rest is history...

mc32 4y ago

Apparently there were places that Leo mete are around for printer server services as it apparently handles printer queues better, so they said.

Scramblejams 4y ago
Having trouble parsing this. Can you please restate?
- mc32 4y ago
  Autocorrection mangled it. Some places kept them around as print servers… (after NT displaced them as directory servers)

Neil44 4y ago

It’s hard to beat free. And of course MS is now trying to kill on prem AD in favour of subscription based AAD.

lproven 4y ago

> But AD was included "for free" in Windows, and the rest is history... I don't think that's a valid point. NDS was included for free in all versions of Netware from 4.0 onwards. The Windows client for Netware was free, and Netware came with the Windows management tools and so on. I upgraded one company's network with a fleet of new workstations in about 1999. A few previous consultants told them it was impossible because they'd lost the installation media for the network client. Back then, it was new, but they didn't know you could just... download the client from Novell's website. So I did, and switched out a fleet of 16-bit Windows boxes for NT 4 clients and the official Novell client. No CD drives: just bootstrap NT install with a DOS floppy, fetch the installation files from the server. Saved enough cost to pay for a few extra workstations. It wasn't about price. The 2 killer factors of NT 4 Server displacing Netware 4 were: * Ease of use: you didn't need to know what you were doing with NT. It's Windows. Click around, click "Next" and "OK" enough, you can get it going. * Netware servers were effectively dedicated to file and print. There were a few server apps but many of them destroyed Netware's famed stability. NT 4 Server is just Windows and you can run anything you like on the server, while it's still being a server.