I'll bring this up since it's recurring: I don't know why people don't sleep enough with children. Sure there are horrible weeks and there are exceptions, but w

I'll bring this up since it's recurring: I don't know why people don't sleep enough with children. Sure there are horrible weeks and there are exceptions, but we go to sleep with our children (around 9pm) and wake up at the same time or a bit earlier, so on average we sleep 9 hours (my wife 10). Of course we have less (read: almost none) alone time, sometime we decide to have a bit less sleep to stay together, but overall if we don't sleep 8 hours per night we are zombies, so we worked toward that. The only thought is that we do sleep with our children and that seems to help a lot how long they stay in bed? My daughter is 4 and sleeps almost 11 hours per day, while the 2 years old sleeps almost 12, sometimes more. As for hobbies, that was painful. We can still somewhat play videogames and we are somewhat resuming board games (not the ones we like). On the upside, we really like playing with wooden train and duplo. Hopefully lego has a come back once the little one stops trying to eat anything on sight. We balance, on holidays we spend a long time with them, but then at some point in the evening we take 1 or 2 hours where we "kinda" ignore them (in terms of play). They will complain, cry or whatever, but I need some time to hang with my wife too. Usually it ends with them playing together, but sometimes the 2 years old become sufficiently annoying that we have to suspend